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Alistair Member Since: 11 Feb 2011 Location: Peterborough / Bordeaux / Andorra Posts: 7923 |
Do you have 2 batteries ?
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9th Nov 2019 11:16pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
Thanks Alistair, thought I only had one but you're correct There's another one clamped in behind the right hand side panel in the boot. Any idea if this is an AGM battery as well and what non JLR batteries might fit ? Can't see much info with it in situ. Looks a bit of a to change too |
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10th Nov 2019 2:37pm |
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stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 35265 |
from my research Rob i have found that the aux battery in the rear right cubby is for the stop start system..
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10th Nov 2019 2:52pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
Thanks Stan, according to the manual for my car if it had stop start there'd be an 'Eco' button to enable / disable which is next to the ASL button on the centre console. Mine has the ASL button only so I assume no stop / start facility. Do you know what the aux battery powers in absence of this ? Also I didn't reset the battery monitor as I'd read somewhere that on the L405 you don't need to and it doesn't mention this in the manual either. It does have guidance on changing the main battery but doesn't mention the auxilliary battery at all....i'm a bit confused |
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10th Nov 2019 4:18pm |
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stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 35265 |
i cant think why the early 4.4's had an aux battery...maybe the electronics were older and more power dependent than the newer 4.4's.
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10th Nov 2019 4:50pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
Yes, seems a bit odd, it's not a small battery either and is tucked in amongst a whole load of wiring / fuses and held in place with long screw down clamps. When I bought the new primary battery a short while ago the search on my reg number showed the need for an AGM battery with stop start capability I'm happy to change the aux battery if needs be but any info or spec seems thin on the ground. Care with the spanner required here too as it looks easy to short something out. Thanks for your research and hopefully a bit more info might come to light in due course. |
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10th Nov 2019 5:41pm |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16281 |
Mine has two batteries and NO stop start system... The engine starts from the smaller battery in the side compartment. This is also an AGM battery...
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10th Nov 2019 5:47pm |
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brad s1 Member Since: 23 Sep 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 134 |
I'm assuming you haven't registered them huh? This is likely the issue. When you install a new battery you need a capable diagnostic to register the new battery to the cars computer. If the old battery was going bad and faulted, those codes are stored and will keep resurfacing. The cars ECU needs to know you've fit a new battery, it'll benchmark it and clear the stored codes. |
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10th Nov 2019 6:34pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
I see your point, and thanks for your input, but assume info in the owners handbook is deemed works capable by the humble owner and it doesn't mention anything other than physical requirements of changing the primary battery |
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10th Nov 2019 6:46pm |
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Cam-Tech-Craig Member Since: 03 Aug 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 16281 |
Both batteries and the software update was done when I changed my batteries... Still get the same message back again 18 months later!
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10th Nov 2019 6:50pm |
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brad s1 Member Since: 23 Sep 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 134 |
Per the service manual regarding new battery changeover. "Using Land Rover approved diagnostic equipment, reset the battery monitoring system (BMS)" |
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10th Nov 2019 6:53pm |
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stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 35265 |
this is from the WM Rob,
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10th Nov 2019 6:54pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
That's confused me even more Craig as the engine turned over perfectly which I would assume means the secondary battery (which I haven't replaced) is in good order. I suppose the acid test (pardon the pun) arrives when the car won't start, which is probably the easiest diagnosis as to which battery needs replacing |
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10th Nov 2019 6:59pm |
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roberlar Member Since: 16 Feb 2019 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 203 |
Thanks Stan, saw this info a short while ago, done the left to right steering and will see how it goes |
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10th Nov 2019 7:02pm |
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