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Peskyfoxs



Member Since: 17 Sep 2019
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey
Strange DPF problem

2011 vogue, keep getting dpf full see handbook, then 5 mins later dpf full visit dealer and limp mode. Car turned off for 1/2 hr and fault gone when restarted. Been to independent several times and no codes other than dpf full. Car then drives fine after 1/2 hr stop .

Been told its my driving thats doing it, do a couple of 2 mile round trips a week then a long drive on weekend using either motorway or a roads

DPF cant be regenerating as drives fine after limp mode so if the car was sooted up from 2 small journeys why is the fault clearing ?

Anyone had anything similar ?

Post #528309 17th Sep 2019 11:20am
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we have some 'dpf' experts here on the forum and i'm sure they'll be along soon to advise....welcome btw.. ... - .- -.




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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Get it on the M62 when it is pretty quiet.
Set the cruise control to 50-55 mph and keep going for a minimum of 30 minutes.
Then it will be fine for a few weeks or 300 miles or so.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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Peskyfoxs



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

It’s come up with dpf on the motorway multiple times including when I have driving manual at 2500 revs. I don’t think it’s clogged as the dpf full came on even after a terraclean.

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Don’t get the revs up, just steady 50-55 mph in D is the best way to get a good regen.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

Post #528318 17th Sep 2019 12:50pm
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Peskyfoxs



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I have tried it every way to regen, I don't think the dpf is full but something is saying it i, garage did a forced regen yet dpf full days later

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

You need to get an analyser on it and watch what is happening.
I use a GAP iid , like most other owners on here.
In live values you can watch the exhaust temperature sensors and the soot build up in grams as you drive along.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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Peskyfoxs



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Been done apparently, garage have had it for about 6 weeks of the 4 months I have owned it


Just curious if anyone has had the same fault

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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Needs a proper investigation...might have an boost leak or EGR probe faulty etc etc.
Take it to JAS in York or Green Oval in Leeds. Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Peskyfoxs



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Thanks, have spoken to Joe at Jas, currently the independent where I bought it from is trying I fix it, they have checked for leaks. Currently I’m told it’s my fault for only doing 2 short journeys in a week then a long drive which I disagree with

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ultron



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Hi,
here in the german forum we had a similar case,
in the end it had turned out that it was the
"Differential pressure sensor"... this error was not timed, only DPF full ....
Car was a 2012er TDV4.4 MY12

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Peskyfoxs



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Thank you, I will mention it, I thought I can't be the only person who had this problem

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Joe is your man...
Bedtime reading
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic48068.html?highlight=dpf
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic43597.html?highlight=dpf Gone to a good home: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
2025MY Defender D350 90 in Silicon Silver on coils
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
Many, many other Landies over the years
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Peskyfoxs



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

Thanks I have read pages and pages on dof’s bit none seem to cover the fault in having and the fact I’m told driving 4 x 1 mile journeys will soot up the dpf and make the car go into limp

Post #528382 17th Sep 2019 8:30pm
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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

You really need an IID to monitor soot as mentioned.

I do a lot of short journeys: 2 mile commute in London traffic, sits there all day and with a cold engine by evening, I do the return two miles.

I get 160-200 mile range between regenerations.
I monitor it on the odometer for a rough idea and using my IIDTool for more precise readings and it helps me know when I need to get it on an A or M road.

Above 17-18 grams of soot you should take it on a run.
Use cruise control and you can sit on 50mph as Baltic Blue mentioned you don't need revs.
Just a constant speed.

The regeneration should take the soot down to below 5 grams.

Once you have an IID you will be able to see
- actual soot level
- when the regenerations are happening
- if the regens are being completed properly (i.e. lowering the soot to below 5g)

Only then can you understand if you do have an issue or not, despite your advice.

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

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