The other German make which is well thought of is Hobby. John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

Thanks for the info, I have also just passed on to her the fact that the Caravan show is coming up soon at the NEC. David

Please let me know if my comments upset you, I may wish to upset you again.

We have towed the caravan for 10 years and 60900 miles with two land rovers

Nice. Gonna be using mine for the first time soon. Just finished putting a tow bar on and see what it's like. Do you use sports mode when towing? Just had transmission fluid changed at a ZF specialist and that's what they advised. Cheers Kev.

Somewhere on here I asked what it's like towing with a 4.4.....I assume yours is a 4.4 or 3.6?
Having got 8 gears I was concerned that she would sit in 6th, 7th or 8th or play a tune up & down the gears!
Consensus of option was split between 'toggle with the paddles' if she laboured a little to 'stick her in sport mode'.
I used the A14-M11-M25-M40 & just stuck her in 'D' & let her decide, drove lovely with no concerns at all.
Think I used the paddles every now & again if I thought she needed it.
2 things are different to my ex trusted steed the X5 [which was faultless in the 5 years] one, I'm convinced the towball
sits lower than the X5, I noticed as soon as I backed up to the ball that I had to drop the caravan a lot to meet the ball.
Secondly, I feel the RR rolls a little more than the X5. The X5 has rear air suspension only & 'sports' suspension as well, which made her slightly more sure-footed on the road. The RR with all her air-gismo's etc is much quieter, softer & 'nicer' but with a 'van on the back you do notice a very slight 'roll'.
Having said that, if you look at the photo, she doesn't look 'arse heavy' & all hooked up, looks fine.
I've only towed once this year with her, but looking forward to next year when we hope to get out a little more.

Keep us informed how you get on. 2012 Orkney Grey Westminster 4.4TDV8 with Ivory interior.........nice!
Alfa Romeo Giulietta
Just one Montesa now, 349 White Wonder
Austin A40 Farina MK2
1975 Morris Marina 1.8TC

Thanks for you reply. Mines the 4.4 tdv8. Will keep you posted.

Mines an L405 4.4. Tow an older crusader superstorm , just over 8m long. I’ve found that sometimes you need to downchange on the paddles as it’s reluctant to kick down, especially when you need to . Otherwise just stick the cruise on and bimble along. My old 3.6 used to hang on to lower gears uphill and would not change. Guess it’s just a software thing .

Thanks for the advice. My van only weighs 1500kg. I'll just tinker around with auto, sports mode and the paddle shift to see what suits best.

Weegie wrote:

The other German make which is well thought of is Hobby.

I had my first tow in my FFRR at the weekend and what a difference to my previous tug! Even in the wind on Sunday it didn't feel like there was anything behind me even though it is updated to 2000kg.
 2019 Autobiography SDV8 Byron blue/black - current
2016 Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black/Ivory - sold
2009 RR Sport TDV8 HSE - sold

Deposit paid on this today, a client of mine is a sales manager at a local dealer and let me have it at trade price, well happy

Mine at its resting place;




Dunc. The life you have is the only one you'll get; make the most of it.
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2012 4.4 TDV8 L322 Autobiography
2003 TD5 Oslo Blue D2 ES Premium Auto (with mods!)

Nearlee I like the look of the segovia, was thinking of replacing our 10y.o lunar, but what put me off was the washroom arrangement. How does it work in practice, seems like you shut off either side , which struck me a a bit impractical with kids in the rear compartment? There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
Fiat 500x 1.4 multiair Lounge 2015
2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

@northern monkey
My current van has end washroom so in night have to creep past kids to go toilet, with a centre washroom then either us or kids can go without disturbing other, good theory will let you know how we get on in practice
But have noticed lots of new Van's with centre washrooms. Remember:- amateurs built the ark
Proffesionals built the titanic