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Rapiscan



Member Since: 28 Apr 2018
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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black
How theft proof is yours

Hi folks,Does anyone have any advice on increasing the security of the L322 with regard to nicking the vehicle rather than breaking in?
Is the electronic key a sufficiently difficult enough barrier to prevent a drive off, or do you employ additional methods and visible deterrents such as chains/ padlocks,steering wheel bar locks,wheel clamps etc, especially for prolonged park ups?
Seems the scallys have managed to defeat keyless systems already.

My beloved is a 2008 model so I’m assuming it’s electronic key is ould hat technically speaking,that’s my Rangie not the wife incidentally! Rolling with laughter 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

I used to be indecisive and have a split personality... but we are ok now...I think?

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Zebedee



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Vogue SDV8 Santorini Black

I use a tracker hidden in the car [https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Realtime-GPS-GPRS-GSM-Tracker-Spy-Tracking-Device-For-Car-Van-Vehicle-Motorcycle/162932131964?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649]


I might not be able to stop it getting stolen, but at least I can look up where it's been and where it is. Current:
- 2017 L405 3.0 V6 Autobiography
Sold:
- 2013 L405 4.4 TDV8 Vogue
- 2004 L322 4.4 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 2002 L322 4.4 HSE (having fixed timing chain guides)
- 2000 P38 4.6 Vogue (BRC LPG)
- 1981 2-door In-Vogue
- 1980 Ex-Army SIII LWB
- 1976 SIII LWB
- 1968 SIIA
Stripped for parts:
- 2003 L322 4.4 Vogue

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John w



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Barolo Black

Pre ~2013 cars don't have keyless entry to my knowledge, so none of the L322s.

Even with keyless entry you need to be within range (about a metre), but this can be extended using specialist signal repeater kit, and this is easily carried as its no bigger than an ipad.

Good practice is to keep any spare keys locked in a metal safe, a good distance from the cars.
The keys used daily should be kept in a metal tin if possible, a decent distance from the front door, or which ever direction the car is.

I think the keys on our pre 2013 cars can be cloned, and this can happen when you are locking / unlocking in a car park / petrol garage. Not much you can do about that esxcept being aware of who is around.


Trackers are great, but ideally they need to have a reserve battery, else they are too easily defeated. Ideally get one that informs you if the vehicle is moved. The one on my car reports movement if the magic fob is not in range of the car, so when I drive it it doesn't report anything. Obviously you must ensure you don't put the car key on this fob, or it will not track the car if someone steals the keys.
They also don't give much of a visible deterrent. If you slap a load of stickers on the car it just tells the thief they need to go looking for it.

My mate who lives in central London uses a steering wheel lock, the one that covers the whole wheel. That is a major visible deterrent, but his house cctv shows people still try the door handles.

I dont know if there are any other decent ways to secure it. If they want it bad enough, they will get it somehow. Too many toys, not enough time

2011 4.4 TDV8 AB Black

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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

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I think the keys on our pre 2013 cars can be cloned, and this can happen when you are locking / unlocking in a car park / petrol garage. Not much you can do about that esxcept being aware of who is around

As far as I understand, keys can be cloned using the OBD port. There are various methods you can use to protect the OBD. Keyless start cars are vulnerable to this. They still have to get and I'm glad I don't have keyless entry - hoping they'll go for a 405 or a Velar with keyless entry, an easier target. They can still get in using a signal 'catcher' mind, but they have to lie in wait for you to blip. . Most Range Rovers here in London use steering wheel locks as a John says due to the spate of thefts using signal repeaters.
. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway


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anyone that does have extra security on their FF probably wont disclose how or what on a public forum... ... - .- -.




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Rapiscan



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Yeah of course divulging anything useful would be counter productive come to think of it. 🤔
Sometimes good old tech like a top quality chain and padlock are hard to beat AND ARE a visual deterrent.
I've got a soft sheathed case hardened motorcycle chain with a high end padlock, so unless the undesirables happen to carry a spare steering wheel and brake pedal to replace the ones they'll have to cut off! I use a disc Lok for short park ups. 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

I used to be indecisive and have a split personality... but we are ok now...I think?

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John w



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Barolo Black

Disk lok, that's what my mate uses. Thumbs Up

A heavy chain may work, but they would probably cut the steering wheel. Rolling Eyes

I recall someone telling me there is a device that disables the gearbox control, so it is stuck in park. If I can find it gain I will post info.

I know there is a way to disable park for recovering the car with a flat battery, but it still can't be driven. Too many toys, not enough time

2011 4.4 TDV8 AB Black

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GGDR



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So many covert ways you can disable a car.

Back in the 70's my dad used to take the HT lead off the distributor/coil if we parked in the city. Old school but you can use that thinking to add hidden kill switches e.g. transmission control like John says.
. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

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Rapiscan



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England 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Ahhh,the good old days when all we had to do was...hide the starting handle!😆 2008 L322 Vogue 3.6 TDV8 in Java Black with parchment and Navy interior. 125000mls.

I used to be indecisive and have a split personality... but we are ok now...I think?

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Mr Tee



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Always double lock it. Also have a 6 series with keyless, bought a faraday pouch which works a treat.

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GraemeC



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Not relevant to a RR but I used to remove the distributor arm in my Dad's 1965 Landrover!

A thief would have to be very well prepared to nick it after that! 2007 Zermatt Silver TDV8 Vogue SE - now sold but was a great car!

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mrblonde



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United Kingdom 2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Adriatic Blue

Disklok that covers the whole steering wheel. Parked face in on the driveway with mrsblonde's car blocking it in. Ring video doorbell alerts us if anyone ventures onto the driveway

and a large dog in the kitchen to let out who barks the house down every time the doorbell detects motion outside Thumbs Up

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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Go back to basics and have an immobiliser fitted... Quite inexpensive! These days you can have a dongle on your keyring that you simply drop in the cupholder to allow the immobiliser to work Thumbs Up

If they can't start yours, I'm sure they won't hang around long!

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