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TDSIX



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4.4 TDV8 Remap?

Looking to remap my new car, I mapped my 3.6 with great results.. looking around I can see many tuning box products promising same sorts of figures than a map.. which I take with a pinch of salt.. and I read that a map is better than a tuning box too..

Any thoughts? 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
2007 FF VSE 3.6 TDV8 - Gone
2011 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6- Gone
2003 FF TD6 Vogue - Gone
2006 FF TD6 - Gone
2007 FF 3.6 VSE - For sale
2011 FF 4.4 TDV8 - Current

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TDSIX



Member Since: 18 Feb 2017
Location: Stirlingshire
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Silly me put this in the wrong forum.. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
2007 FF VSE 3.6 TDV8 - Gone
2011 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6- Gone
2003 FF TD6 Vogue - Gone
2006 FF TD6 - Gone
2007 FF 3.6 VSE - For sale
2011 FF 4.4 TDV8 - Current

Post #465175 19th Jan 2018 9:33pm
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You should drive it around for a couple of weeks.
You could be pleasantly surprised and save yourself a bob or two. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

Post #465181 19th Jan 2018 9:51pm
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TDSIX



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Oh I will, but I like to exploit the potential.. I always map my cars - the ones that would benefit. My 3.6 was mapped and it drove very well, I'm just not sure I will see the benefit of having the 4.4 if it has a stock tune after having a well mapped 3.6..
I am assuming the drive of a mapped 3.6 to be very similar to a stock 4.4? 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
2007 FF VSE 3.6 TDV8 - Gone
2011 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6- Gone
2003 FF TD6 Vogue - Gone
2006 FF TD6 - Gone
2007 FF 3.6 VSE - For sale
2011 FF 4.4 TDV8 - Current

Post #465186 19th Jan 2018 10:09pm
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dolph34



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My 3.6 ' felt ' quicker than my 4.4 does. Whether this was just a feeling or not , im not sure but i drove them back to back and 3.6s throttle response was much better. I'm having my 4.4 mapped soon , just haven't had time so far and will report back. 2015 4.4 AB
GSXR 1000 K5
R1 1998

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northernmonkeyjones



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Was looking into this myself a few weeks back. The best seem to be

jE in the midlands
DMS who will go mobile

And I think BAS (Pete bell) will also do a 4.4 map, but best email him. Usually his are done over a module he posts out, you then upload your current map to him and he sends a modified version which you upload to the car. The advantage of Pete’s system is you can put the old map back on using the device at any time (basically an iid tool)

DMS reckoned they could get up near 400hp from the 4.4.... which is tempting. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
FFRR 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography Santorini Black.
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2010 LR D4 Commercial 2.7 TDV6

Post #465211 20th Jan 2018 8:15am
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Vogue



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@dolph34 Best budget for a new gearbox then as mapping the 4.4 takes it over the rated torque load for the gearbox - loads of info on here if you do a search. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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TDSIX



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Just had a chat with BAS, they won't tune the 4.4.. he told me that 700nm is plenty and not many folk map them. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
2007 FF VSE 3.6 TDV8 - Gone
2011 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6- Gone
2003 FF TD6 Vogue - Gone
2006 FF TD6 - Gone
2007 FF 3.6 VSE - For sale
2011 FF 4.4 TDV8 - Current

Post #465226 20th Jan 2018 11:29am
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Mikey



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The maximum gearbox input torque is already lower than the torque the standard engine produces...

The top end can be improved on, as torque drops off higher in the Rev Range, but it’s not the huge improvement you would normally see with a remap...

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TDSIX



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a lot of conflicting info on this subject..

tboner001 wrote:


i have driven a 4.4 TDV8 remapped with 8000 miles on the map with 950NM Torque and 395HP and it has had no issues at all ........


http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic4809-30.html

Some folk have mapped the 4.4 and there are tuners quoting figures around +70bhp and 840nm etc.. I understand it must be a risk otherwise no one would be saying it. I'll see how the car goes in stock form first. 2010 FF 4.4 TDV8 Vogue - Gone
2007 FF VSE 3.6 TDV8 - Gone
2011 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6- Gone
2003 FF TD6 Vogue - Gone
2006 FF TD6 - Gone
2007 FF 3.6 VSE - For sale
2011 FF 4.4 TDV8 - Current

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KurtVerbose



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When you see 'no issues at all...', shouldn't that be 'no issues at all...yet!'

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ajac8



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Surely the car is capable enough as it is. If you want a sports car - buy one Thumbs Up 405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
93 RR Classic efi

Remember it's easier to get forgiveness than permission!

Gone in order:
4.4 TDV8 SE - gone to a good home
93 Classic hard dash Plymouth Blue
03 L322 Oslo Blue
2000 Disco TD5 ES Epsom Green
98 P38 Rioja Red
89 Classic Cairngorm Brown

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dolph34



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If your tuning for speed , then i agree with buying a faster car but it's more about driveability especially throttle control which in my humble opinion the 4.4 lacks 2015 4.4 AB
GSXR 1000 K5
R1 1998

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the standard tdv8 4.4 will reach 130mph and probably a bit more so surely thats enough..... ... - .- -.




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“Drive ability “,
It must be an age thing, mine pulls like a train from any speed and scares the pants off me sometimes, so much so that I always finish up lifting my foot off 🤔🤔.
As for top speed, god knows, I have never been anywhere near.

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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