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letsavit2

Member Since: 16 Oct 2010
Location: essex
Posts: 854

12mpg.....think of all that tax going to such good causes, stella, fags etc on giro day...

Nice car mate.. 2004 black Vogue TD6

3rd Jan 2011 3:02pm

Ludzy

Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: Leicester
Posts: 191

2005 Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharged Zambezi Silver

Dolphinboy wrote:
is it a trick of the light or does the first picture show the rear left door with a rather large scrape/dent towards the hinge? If these are the dealer pics then hopefully this is a "before" shot and they have fixed this prior to sale but did they tell the new buyer?

Trick of light mate. As soon as I looked at the pics before I viewed I mentioned straight away and dealer told me it was the camera. Definatley no Mark on the car now. Dealer is a very high end dealer, sells ferraris, bentleys etc so I have no reason to assume there lying to me. All the little things (stone chips etc) that I pointed out about the car were sorted prior to me picking up.

As for the mpg I actually get 11.6!! Get about 200 ish on a full tank. According to dash comp. It's only ever used for small trips. The wife's work is 10 mins drive away so the car really never gets going. I have my work van so don't really use it much.

Wife keeps telling me to get it lpg'd but with so many different people giving me different info and all the horror stories on the net ive kind of put it on the back burner for now. J E want about 6k, two local installers want 3k and 2k. All say 4.2 supercharged can be done but J E say still may have problems. The 2 local say they've done loads to these engines with no problems but can't give me details of the customers to prove it. Last 2 mention fitting a flashcube will fix most problems even tho the info on the net so otherwise. Don't wanna take the risk and ruin a perfect car.

Cheers

3rd Jan 2011 6:30pm

Dolphinboy

Member Since: 07 Dec 2009
Location: Bristol
Posts: 3185

phew, that's good news ref the "scratch". car looks fab. I think those are the best wheels of all. ref your MPG, there's no way you will get anything like normal on such a short run. My TD6 only gets 17 MPG when I go 2 miles up the road.

ref LPG: £6k is a lot of money which could be spent on fuel methinks.

3rd Jan 2011 6:48pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

Member Since: 22 Jan 2010
Location: Chilterns, UK
Posts: 11309

Based on your local mileage surely best to keep the car original and used the "saved" £6k to fuel the car for the next few millennia

Based on my calculations it will take you seven years to regain the cost of the JE Eng. LPG install if your mileage is 3650 miles a year or 10 miles a day....

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3rd Jan 2011 6:50pm

JOKER

Member Since: 11 Sep 2008
Location: Sconnie Botland
Posts: 15876

The more i look at your pics the more i want to get OF Alloys but the pot holes up here are horrendous for 22"'s

3rd Jan 2011 6:54pm

Royle

Member Since: 12 Nov 2010
Location: Perth
Posts: 655

Very ture Mick. Ripped two of my tyres today. Frightened the living daylights out of me. I have 20's on the X5 and If any larger would have been much worse.

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3rd Jan 2011 7:38pm

Ludzy

Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: Leicester
Posts: 191

Wife's work is about 5 miles round trip. We only take small trips in the car. Think the furthest we travelled is to ikea in Nottingham. So never really gave it a good run. Going manchester end of next week so will see what I get. As for getting my money back from LPG conversion, I'm planning on keeping this car for a very very long time. To me this is my dream car. I wouldn't swap it for anything else (well maybe a newer reg) but you get what I'm saying.

Cheers

3rd Jan 2011 9:15pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

Member Since: 22 Jan 2010
Location: Chilterns, UK
Posts: 11309

If you like it that much you will want a newer one within 5 years mate.....

3rd Jan 2011 11:05pm

Phil.

Member Since: 19 Apr 2010
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 787

2019 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

Ludzy

Whatever you do, do NOT LPG it. You will ruin your RR.

I LPG'd a MY06 55 plate SC a couple of years ago with JE and did 36k miles on LPG in 18 months. Its now sold and I have replaced it with a TDV8. It was a horror story.

If you want to LPG a FFRR then the 4.4 BMW engine is the one to go for. Don't spoil a good SC as I did.

PM me if you want details.

15th Jan 2011 9:34am

JustinP

Member Since: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 889

2006 Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharged Java Black

Hi Phil,

What went wrong?

Cheers

Justin
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

15th Jan 2011 9:37am

stan
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it would be interesting for other members if you tell us here phil..

15th Jan 2011 9:53am

Phil.

Member Since: 19 Apr 2010
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 787

JustinP wrote:
Hi Phil,

What went wrong?

Cheers

Justin

More than I can remember. A good set up was almost impossible to achieve due to the sensitivity/complexity of the FFRR SC engine. Then the valves melted. Then it never ran properly again during my ownership. Nightmare. Luckily I work within walking distance of JE and they were great throughout but the problems were just impossible to resolve with my vehicle. Apparently there are many successful Sport SC LPG conversions, it's just the FFRR where there are potential issues.

Plus the reality of LPG is not much fun if you are doing big miles as I was and as you need to in order to recover a £5k-£6k investment. Fill up every 200 miles (3 times a day sometimes to end with a full tank). Prices currently 70ppl+. Always on the lookout for a LPG garage (Sat Nav LPG info is always out of date - so many times I have turned off the main route to get LPG only to find it to be disappointed), and many garages I used in the past across the country have removed LPG from their offering in the last 12 months due to lack of business.

It's just not worth the hassle. If you want to do big miles with a SC and not get 18mpg then buy something else. If you're not doing big miles then financially it's not worth converting anyway, just enjoy it unmolested!

There are some 4.4 LPG FFRR conversions out there that work well so another option is to buy one of those already converted.

15th Jan 2011 10:01am

kkqd0298

Member Since: 02 Mar 2010
Location: London/Aberdeen
Posts: 199

2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Java Black

MICK wrote:
The more i look at your pics the more i want to get OF Alloys but the pot holes up here are horrendous for 22"'s

You can get the same Overfinch rims in a 20". I had these on my last FF as I was also concerned about the ride with 22's. *Gone* Discovery3 HSE
*Gone* Discovery3 HSE
*Gone* MY10 RangeRover TDV8
Freelander for OH
MY11 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography Black

15th Jan 2011 10:46am

comports

Member Since: 20 Dec 2010
Location: Colchester
Posts: 1743

2016 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Mariana Black

Looks great - Like the wheels - whats the ride like with 22's? Ash
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2016 SDV8 AB

15th Jan 2011 5:45pm

Ludzy

Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: Leicester
Posts: 191

To be honest I don't think it rides very well on the 22's. Normal town driving is fine but on motorway it's a tad different. Maybe I was expecting to much as never had an rr before let alone anything with bigger wheels than 17's. Had it all checked when purchased and tracking etc is fine. I think it's down to the large wheels and low profile tires you can feel the difference in road surfaces. Maybe I'm making it sound worse than it is. Nobody else notices it only me. To picky maybe?

Back onto the LPG subject. Gonna get the wife a mini to potter around in so the RR will not be used as much which I don't mind as I'm normally at work all week. If JE want 6k I may as well spend abit more and get another car. Less hassle that way I think. And Phil are you the customer that was at JE as much as the staff? The nice lady on the phone told me about a local customer that had so many problems with there FFRR SC that they were there as much as the staff. said you had terrible bad look with the SC conversion.

Maybe I should have paid abit more and got a TDV8 or bought a TDV6 but I do love the SC. The power is amazing! For such a big veicle is goes. And I love the supercharger sound. I would look to have a drive of the TDV8 just to see if it's as good as everybody say but I would say it works the other way as well. If you get a chance drive the SC.

18th Jan 2011 2:42am

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