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Boydonegood



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Where's the logic?

Now I'm not complaining as its fixed but...

Where's the link? Other half told me today on journey home the "Check Brake Fluid" light came on... Then "HDC Inactive" then "Suspension inactive". When I got my head outta my hands I went out and tried steering wheel reset. Turning on and off etc but messages still came back.

Topped up Brake fluid reservoir with 200ml (shocked how low consider no leaks and good pads) of brake fluid and all clears itself and all warnings gone!

How does Brake fluid level effect air suspension and Gearbox!!

Confused

Tel Accept, some days your the pigeon, some days your the statue!

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mzplcg



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You could also ask how a humble Stop/Tail bulb could bring the mighty Discovery to its knees, but it can. Confused

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Boydonegood



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Haha really? No way! Rolling Eyes Accept, some days your the pigeon, some days your the statue!

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mjdronfield



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HDC uses abs, so probably disabled if fluid low....

As to suspension, no idea.... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

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nicksaab



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According to Storey Wilson (RSW Allcomms) , the ABS and Air Suspension computers are closely inter-related so a fault on the ABS system will almost always trigger an air suspension fault warning too. Current Fleet:-
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Lost for Words



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mzplcg wrote:
You could also ask how a humble Stop/Tail bulb could bring the mighty Discovery to its knees, but it can. Confused


Boydonegood wrote:
Haha really? No way! Rolling Eyes


Yep, but it is logical; bad bulbs cause electrical noise on the brake circuits, which in turn upsets ECUs. It can happen on other "premium" vehicles too. Thumbs Up

There are always all sorts of faults that can trigger each other because of the way the systems are designed to work together. Easy to see it as a PITA, but it's what makes LRs work so well both off and on road. Smile Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Joe90



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I would also be removing the covers on the LHS underneath to check the condition of the brake pipes (that is the tank cover and the flat covers on the long run from front to back) If your pipes have not been changed they are likely to be quite corroded and leaking. 200ml is a lot of fluid to lose so keep an eye on the level.

What everyone else says is correct, all the ECUs are linked together in a chain, so if one thing fails, it kicks up errors elsewhere for safety reasons. Therefore if brake fluid is low, you will get an ABS fault, an HDC fault, it will lock down the air suspension (EAS) and this will also get a fault logged in the LCM. Once the issue resolved, check then clear all faults with diagnostics, then check a couple of days later for returns. .
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