so the opposite of stephens thread, i am thinking of coming back to the fold.... i sold the old td6 and got a 3 year old Q7 comfort plus..... its a good piece of kit and it ploughs through motorways like nothing i have ever driven, but it turns out that the 6 seats aren't really needed and for the odd time i need a lot of space i have the back box so am thinking of getting back into a FF..... am in no rush but am wondering what to go for.... want to spend circa £20k.... not fussed whether diesel or petrol but really would like the following....

black interior
ski hatch (se?)
tow bar
minimum 6 speed box


any ideas? i could stretch to the facelift but i am thinking maybe not and just anti up to 4.4 in 2 years time....

am i mad?

I will leave the car spec to the real people with the knowledge (not me) on here but WELCOME BACK!

Welcome back Andy... If your happy with a few miles then your just teetering on 4.4 TDV8 territory with that budget...

Go for the SC so much fun and nice and quiet

when did yo go ?








welcome back Andy  ... - .- -.




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hey guys, bought the q7 in aug last year.....have checked in from time to time for a read

how many miles is many craig? 100k+?

i did think about the supercharged, but in the real world is there much difference between that and the tdv8 3.6 as am guessing that the supercharged is more cash due to rarity etc; i would have thought all would seem a step up from the td6 but then probably all louder than the q7 which has the 8 speed box.....?

SC cars are cheaper to buy but more to fuel, expect 16mpg from the 4.2 SC and 18mpg from the 5.0SC.

The 3.6 and 4.4 TDV8s are awesome engines. Discovery 4 HSE
1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF
1982 Series 3 Hard Top

*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

SC is cheaper and a lot more powerful than the 3.6 v8 diesel. MPG is lower but not much in the real world, maybe 4 or 5 mpg more for the oil burner, but then a lot of reported issues with turbos and ego valves.

3.6 tdv8

268 bhp 472 lb-ft torque 0-60 is 8.6 seconds

23/24 mpg ish

weigh 2717 kg

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super charged

400 bhp 420 lb-ft torque 0-60 is 7.1 seconds

18/19 mpg wish

weight 2687kg

Supercharged with black interior…..circa £20k…2008

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic35989.html

you can have mine for £18k Andy...no ski hatch or towbar though.... ... - .- -.




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you going for a 405 then?

Yes Andy, i would think close to 100K pal...

The 4.4 TDV8 Would be my choice, followed by the SC (as less goes wrong with them then the 3.6)

BUT!!! And its a BIG BUT... Despite whats typed above, having owned the SC & the 3.6 and driving both on an almost daily basis! There really is no definable power difference between the 3.6TDV8 & 4.2 SC in real time ownership MPG was 16 - 26 in my experience. I now run a 4.4TDV8 and get around 30ish and imho the 8sp gearbox makes ALL the difference and was the defining reason i bought my car over the 5.0...

Hope that all helps

I tested both and can vouch for the 8 speed 4.4 TDV8 and Craig's mpg #'s, in fact I had a conversation with him when he first bought his and what he now describes is exactly what I said to him at the time.... the 4.4 TDV8 is brilliant but it's the 8 speed box that really makes the package work so well.

On a run to Geneva at a steady 90mph (oh err missus) I can see 35mpg which given how unaerodynamic a 322 is astounds me.

Massive mid range grunt too.

You chipped yours yet Craig or not felt the need? 2016 (L405) Autobiography in Black with Ivory - for ULEZ
2014 (L405) VSE in Black with Ivory
2011 (L322) VSE in Black with Ivory
2005 (3.2 V6) Porsche Cayenne in Black with Savanna
1999 (P38) VSE in Burgundy (?) with Sand

I just couldn't get over the fact it burns oil