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barwik



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Failed MOT as the fog lights wont turn off !

Hi .
My RR has just failed its MOt as the rear fog lights wont turn off - if the side or head lights are turned on the rear fog lights are on all the time - anyone come across this before ?
It has ungraded xenon headlights and led rear lights ( were all fitted before I bought it )
Everything normally works fine but I cant say I've noticed the fog lights on before but to late now as they wont turn off - if I disconnect the light switch they come on as well ( as do the side lights )
any ideas out there ?
regards and thanks in advance
john

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Alistair



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By LED rear lights do you mean the entire cluster or LED bulbs?

If it's a replacement cluster it sounds like faulty wiring as they needed some sort of adapter / relay unit

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its the led lights that are the problem....you need specific wiring and modifications to make them work properly..

i would talk to a conversion specialist who can sort it out for you...

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Alistair



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A few clues here if you're technically minded Thumbs Up

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barwik



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Thanks for the replies - its got complete units fitted not just the led bulbs - while I was having a look my check were - turn the lights on , remove rear lights and check for power at the connectors at the rear lights - power at two points - I'm assuming one is side lights and one is fog lights so I turned everything off and put the indicator/parking light on - now I only have one live at the rear lights - so would this indicate a faulty switch ?

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They are not a straight swap - the old units were good old fashioned wiring with 12V & ground for each bulb - the new units have funky 'bus' cabling which sends instructions to the unit - so you need a conversion box of tricks to make them work properly - read the thread I linked & it gives you some idea Thumbs Up

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If you fit the upgraded 2010/2012 light units on the older cars (like I did) you need to have them configured properly - they are certainly not 'plug n play' Is this where I put the car details and a bit about myself ?........

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How long have you had the car ? I assume someone else did the conversion...... you might have to talk to them.

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barwik



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Unfortunately the previous owner did the conversion assured me everything worked ! Yea right - I should have known better - I didn't expect or inspect the rear lights for working ALL the time - more surprised that it passed last years MOT as I bought it with a fresh mot !
but now its off the road till I sort it - currently I'm blinding everyone behind me !

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If it had a new MOT when you bought it were the rear lights units changed after the MOT was done? If not then I would go back to the garage who did the previous MOT and query why they passed the car with an obvious fault!

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barwik



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Too late now though its over a year ago - might let off a bit of aggression but it wont get me anywhere - and it still needs sorting correctly !

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Are you able to fix wiring yourself?

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barwik



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Hi.
Yea I feel reasonably confident - a diagram always helps .

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PaulTyrer wrote:
If it had a new MOT when you bought it were the rear lights units changed after the MOT was done? If not then I would go back to the garage who did the previous MOT and query why they passed the car with an obvious fault!


And just how do you prove the fault was there more than a year ago when they passed it ?

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PaulTyrer wrote:
If it had a new MOT when you bought it were the rear lights units changed after the MOT was done? If not then I would go back to the garage who did the previous MOT and query why they passed the car with an obvious fault!


That would just be a waste of time, they can just say the lights were fine when they tested it, they must have been changed/gone faulty afterwards.

If you were so minded all you can do is report the garage to the DVSA (formerly VOSA) who will monitor the testing station concerned. They might send in a mystery shopper if they've had a few complaints about the same station. Sounds easy enough to miss if it was tested on a bright day and and tester hadn't seen too many L322's. I mean if it had a whole list of stuff that it should have failed on that's one thing, but for just this, it was probably just human error.

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