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Haylands



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It's the engine oil that's leaking not the gearbox.... Thumbs Up Pete

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Welshdragon



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Haylands wrote:
I'd take it back and complain, "since you did my gearbox the engine leaks" sounds fare to me.... Whistle Whistle

I'd just do the seal then.... Thumbs Up


I'm waiting a quote from local garage and independent LR dealer.

Now...........Craig my friend Whistle .....what was that....oh can't put it on the forum.......... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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My Landcruisers started with an 80 series, which apart from wanting to wander everywhere, especially when towing, was the most reliable. But that didn't stop it spitting it's water pump though the rad at 1 a.m. on a Bank holiday weekend Evil or Very Mad In the end the gearbox self destructed, and it was scrapped as it also need a steering box, full set of calipers, the turbo was less than healthy and the tin worm was taking hold, and it had only done 550000 miles, see they are weak Wink

But the 2 100 series were a much sorrier tale, neither made it past 200000, both had problems with the drive flanges (stupid little 10 mm thick flanges that link the wheel to the drive shaft, must have done 30 in a 10 year period on the fleet) CV's aren't too strong, gearboxes, suspension, turbos, brakes (calipers), water pumps, egr pipe ( very common and expensive ), steering racks and pumps, the list is endless. And to top it all the MPG was 22-24 normal and 15 towing Shocked and we are talking Diesel folks Shocked And then there is the cost, when I jacked my job in and went it alone, I needed a car that would tow 3.5 tons on wet grass / mud. That don't half narrow the list of cars that will suffice. I ended up with the ffrr, and I do not regret it, I paid 8K for a late 2003 with 95 k on the clock. The Landcruisers were 12K for a 1999 to 2002 with 100K, so mine was a third cheaper, two thirds better, and 100% nicer to drive Thumbs Up Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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johnboyairey



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If you are doubting whether the engine rear seal isleaking, or the gearbox front seal is leaking, you might want to compare the dripped evidence, with a sample from say the dipstick, or a carefull dribble from the sump nut on the gearbox. Your engine oil can be changed to prove it. (Colour wise) But you might have a leak up top, and the engine oil is sitting on the inlet manifold, and overflowing through a tiny hole at the back, and then down the rear face of the engine, and out the bottom. You should be very sure it is a seal and rule out the chance of the rocker cover, or similar easily rectified/diagnosed leak well before you take out the box. It is fairly common on this engine, for the coolant system to leak on the 'valley pan gasket' and this also overflows down rear of engine and drips out same area. Transfer oil is other end of box so it's not that.
Get some samples on some white tissue.

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Welshdragon



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Welshdragon wrote:
Haylands wrote:
I'd take it back and complain, "since you did my gearbox the engine leaks" sounds fare to me.... Whistle Whistle

I'd just do the seal then.... Thumbs Up


I'm waiting a quote from local garage and independent LR dealer.

Now...........Craig my friend Whistle .....what was that....oh can't put it on the forum.......... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter



Up date on this.....no one wants the job!, very time consuming job too Big Cry Big Cry If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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Welshdragon



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@ Johnboyairey I have looked at the back of engine block and valley gasket, nothing that I could see but only a small amount on the valley, nothing to even worry about though. If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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johnboyairey



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if you get under, and with some old toothbrush type tool, clean inside that square hole, on the rear of engine, and the bowl of bellhousing. when clean and dry, run it up for 15mins, and when stopped see if it running down rear of engine face, or bowl of bellhousing, this will tell you if its engine oil, from engine, or gearbox oil, which may be hanging off torque converter as a drip, or wetted streaks. this might point you to where to wonder next.
on the rear of the engine, is both the PCV system, (oiley?) and part of the coolant system, ie a large y piece the splits flow to both sides of the V, you could feel all round there, for fluid, with clean hands etc. as i said above, you need to be real sure its the rear engine seal, or the gearbox seal, (and backed up with an experts' diagnosis to back yourself up) before you get your gearbox spanners out.
there are some bottles of 'wonder-fluid' out there that claim: 'engine stop leak' etc. same for gearbox.

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Haylands



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Can get it done for you over here, do you want me to get a quote?? Pete

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Welshdragon



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Just to close this thread down, I changed the rocker covers as they where the cause of this leak of oil.
The rubber gaskets where that hard no wonder they be leaking! Any how it's been nearly 2 weeks now and not a drop of oils to see, mind it's a bitch of a job to do, it took more that the quoted aloted time lr say to do it.

Drivers side been the difficult side to do as air con pipes get in the way and the only way i could get passed was to take the ignition coil packs cover box, (the long black plastic box which has the wires in) off....I'm glad it did not goto a garage for the job Laughing Laughing If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

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Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up glad it is sorted.

Johnboyairey, ours was a 100 as well and you're right it was a problem child. I'd take a Range over a Cruiser every time as at least in the Cruiser you get a much nicer experience when it is not needing repairs. The Cruiser is never nice to drive in ever, compared to a Range. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Nice to find it was only the gaskets.

I thought you were in for a bigger bill when this thread started. Howard
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johnboyairey



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Great to hear. Those rocker gaskets work well, but when they leak, they are not obvious, and throw down oil to awkward places. Mine are newish, but sometimes drip onto the exhaust manifolds, so car sometimes smells of hot oil.
Glad you traced the leaks, and had no doubt a smaller bill too.
After a few hundred miles, wipe around the edges, to see if you have a settling in leak, and maybe tighten up a tad, but only a tad. Thumbs Up

Sounds like indeed it was the top half of the rocker leaking, onto the inlet manifold, which has a small drain hole that allows either leaking coolant, or engine oil, to run out, down the rear of the engine block, and down and out through the bottom of the gearbox and inspection hole. Hence you have a drip, so you need to know if it's engine oil gearbox oil or coolant. All can present, and together!
PCV leaks can gather there too.

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