Zirconblue wrote:

It's not though it's dyed, much the same way a red cotton t-shirt is dyed red not painted;

"Aniline leather is a type of leather dyed exclusively with soluble dyes without covering the surface with a topcoat paint or insoluble pigments."

but automotive leather is still dyed not painted - that's the point i was making. You can tell because the back of it is usually the same colour as the front of it. ie. blue all the way through not blue on the front and natural tan on the back.

I can't see past Chemical Guys for most stuff. they're leather cleaner and conditioner are great and leave a brilliant scent. I even bought the leather air freshener

Chemical Guys uk is just 5 minuets from me. a little too handy for me can't stop buying stuff from them ! Range Rover Vogue 2006 4.4 AJV8 | Buckingham Blue | Parchment Leather | Supercharged Grill+Side Vents | CA02 HEY ( NOT 02 PLATE )

As above, you cannot "condition" modern car leather.

On all cars I've had with leather seats I've always used a glycerine based saddle soap to clean the leather followed by Connolly's hide care cream. I was recommended this procedure from an old guy in the Jaguar drivers club back in the early nineties when I had an old XJ Series 3. It makes the leather very supple which prevents cracking. 2017 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
2016 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - GONE
2013 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography - GONE
2010 3.6 TDV8 - GONE
2008 3.6 TDV8 - GONE
2002 3.0 TD6 - GONE
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 S - GONE
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 - GONE
2003 Discovery 2 TD5 - GONE
1999 Discovery 300 TDI - GONE
1998 Range Rover DSE - GONE
1997 Discovery 300 TDI - GONE

Trommel wrote:

As above, you cannot "condition" modern car leather.

As above, if the leather is undamaged you can only be seeing a superficial improvement in appearance.

All the facts are freely available, if you like slathering leather conditioner onto your seats please don't let me dissuade you.

If by superficial you mean, lasts at least 6 months in a temperate climate.....

Thing is i've had a look for these facts, and i can't find anything to support your point of view, and find it a little hard to believe Land-Rover themselves, Jaguar, Connolly (who used to make the leather), Rolls Royce, Aston Martin etc etc would be selling branded leather conditioners if it was wrong to apply them.

Please feel free to post any links to reputable sources that support your point of view though.

Craig FYI

I've seen coloured cows in my younger days but it's all a bit hazy.

Oh how we laughed  Geoff

Oddly I've just been cleaning some melted chocolate off my seat, tricky due to the perforations, used a leather cleaner but as it leaves the SEMI Aniline leather a bit too clean I always splash on a bit of conditioner to finish off. What is useful however is the coloured balm which I use for hiding scratches which seem to have gone through to top coat (dye I think). Geoff

I recall looking into a new 405 (I think VSE) in a dealer showroom and seeing a label with care instructions for the seats which said that they should just be wiped with a clean damp cloth. Is that the LR policy for perforated seats in 322s also?
On my P38 and 322 Vogues I cleaned the Parchment seats with Autoglym leather cleaner and then put on Autoglym leather cream which seemed to work well. Those seats were not perforated. I have not attempted this with the current ventilated 2012 322 seats, partly due to seeing that label and partly because I wonder whether the cleaning products/cream would go through the holes and have an adverse effect on what is underneath or, in the case of the cream, clog up the holes.

Zirconblue wrote:

Thing is i've had a look for these facts, and i can't find anything to support your point of view, and find it a little hard to believe Land-Rover themselves, Jaguar, Connolly (who used to make the leather), Rolls Royce, Aston Martin etc etc would be selling branded leather conditioners if it was wrong to apply them.

Please feel free to post any links to reputable sources that support your point of view though.

Well thanks for that, although no need to be rude. I'm well aware how to use google, but various search terms only brought up results for people selling leather care products.

I'll have a read through them when i get chance.

CS wrote:

I recall looking into a new 405 (I think VSE) in a dealer showroom and seeing a label with care instructions for the seats which said that they should just be wiped with a clean damp cloth.

http://www.lttsolutions.co.uk/auto-maintain.html

From one of the links above, this looks a lot like a leather conditioner to me....