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MattChaloner



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Interesting TRANS FAILSAFE PROG...

Hi All,

My cars started coming up with a TRANS FAILSAFE PROG from time to time. Now what I find interesting about this is other than the car driving along as if it's slipping the clutch all the time (tq converter disabled?) it drives normally - goes up and down through the gears fine, and if I knock it across into manual mode I can go up and down through the gears without problem.

For the sake of completeness the car has had a strange issue since I got it - When I knock it across into manual mode instead of telling me I've gone into 'sport' mode, it lights up the 'Low' mountain. When I then go to change a gear instead of telling me I'm in manual mode it just shows the number of the gear I'm in, along with the low range mountain. Additionally when I put the car into low range it doesn't ask me to select neutral, it just waits until I've done so, and then the Low range mountain doesn't flash but you can hear the motor do something and when you drive off its quite clearly in low range, made obvious by the revs!!

Is it at all possible that these faults are related? I've read some things about the potentiometer on the transfer box motor... Could this be at fault? Or perhaps some kind of transmission ECU? I can't find anything quite like it having scoured the internet so I'm at a loss as to where to begin fault finding!!

From a gearbox point of view, its the only one I've driven so can't compare it to anything other than the L405 which i'm sure is completely different by design, but I think to me the gear changes feel ok. Perhaps a little clunky when cold but I've read that this is normal. Also possibly a tiny delay going from D to R and back again, but again I'd say this is only when cold, and doesn't clunk or anything just a small delay, half a second or so?

I had the car scanned today just after the TRANS FAILSAFE PROG came up, as I was on my way to my friends workshop anyway, and it said 'Mechanical Torque Converter Monitor Fault'

Not sure what this means and not sure I like the sound of it either Sad

Hope someone can help!
Cheers
Matt

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Hi,

If you fill in the car details on your profile then we will know what model you are talking about...... Pete

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Joe90



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Sounds like your transfer box motor is working OK, if you are able to get into and out of low range alright.

When in manual mode it will tell you the number of the gear you are in. You are not in sport mode so it won't tell you you are. Could be you are doing a double when pushing the lever across, this is why sport does not come up?

Not sure about the "low mountain sign" though, does sound like a gremlin.

Battery disconnect procedure??

All that said, with a slipping box (have you checked the oil level in the box?) I fear the worst is to come... Shocked .
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MattChaloner



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Sorry will update details now, it's an 03 TD6 vogue

What should I need to do to make it say sport mode then? Will try disconnecting battery for a while in the morning

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You still need to put your car details in your profile mate. You will then have a little car icon under your avatar....

Moving the lever left and nothing more is sport mode.

Moving it backwards or forwards once there engages manual mode.

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MattChaloner



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I thought that was the case. So on my car putting into sport mode makes the low range mountain light up, then when I move up or down to enter manual mode it makes the mountain a little brighter! No messages displayed on the screen for either.

The gearbox only slips when the trans failsafe prog message is displayed, I thought I'd read this was because it deactivates the torque converter?

Does it only go into 4th and hold it there if it's a certain issue? As mines never ever done that!

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