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discowill

Member Since: 07 Jan 2015
Location: Wigan
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2011 Range Rover Autobiography Black TDV8 Barolo Black

My head is not in the sand, I live no where near any sand If you had of asked do Land Rovers have some really annoying issues I would agree some of them do, but at no point did I see any really life threating issues which is what you asked.

19th Feb 2015 8:59pm

DMRR

Member Since: 14 Apr 2010
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 2027

2009 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Stornoway Grey

I live as far away as you can in the UK from any sand .... this is just a stupid thread

Might as well be called 'Do mechanical things fail - discuss' Land Rover Addict
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19th Feb 2015 9:23pm

discowill

Member Since: 07 Jan 2015
Location: Wigan
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That sounds too easy

19th Feb 2015 9:32pm

drivesafe

Member Since: 19 Mar 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 126

2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

discowill wrote:
My head is not in the sand

Hi again Discowill and you actually do have your head in the sand.

I explained, in detail, what happened when my wife was driving our RR and the alternator failed.

But according to what you THINK, you are convinced it couldn’t happen that way.

That is most definitely a case of having one's head in the sand.

Since this happened, I have been told by a number of people who work with LRs, that this has happened a number of times that they know of. What actually caused the steering to lock in any of the cases, has never been explained. 2007 TDV8 Lux

19th Feb 2015 9:57pm

drivesafe

Member Since: 19 Mar 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 126

Discowill, you are correct, this is a waste of time when there is so much ‘It can’t happen to a Land Rover “ mentality being posted.

From the many times I have received help from this forum, I know, first hand, that this is not the norm for this forum. 2007 TDV8 Lux

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19th Feb 2015 10:01pm

DMRR

Member Since: 14 Apr 2010
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 2027

*yawn*

LR didn't make the alternator. LR didn't make the steering lock. LR didn't make the electronics that may have failed.

LR made the body it all sits in, LR designed the way it all fits together.

There are NO vehicle manufacturers that create and build totally proprietary systems. Period.

Get off your soap box, it matters not which vehicle manufacturer your car is made by. Land Rover Addict
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19th Feb 2015 10:04pm

discowill

Member Since: 07 Jan 2015
Location: Wigan
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discowill wrote:
I have had alternator failure and not had the steering lock come on, the only time the steering lock would come on is if the voltage of the battery dropped so low that it thought it was powered off, not saying it could not happen but
1) I would suspect on a very heavy electrical use engine this would has stopped running first e.g. power to the injectors
2) You should of had other warnings for other more power hungry circuits shutting down first so I would expect the dash to light up like a Christmas tree like it did in my case on a 2007 TDV8.

You must not be able to read properly I never said it could not happen, just I thought this was rather unlikely, if I said it could not happen then I would not have my head buried in the sand I would be calling you a liar which I did not say

19th Feb 2015 10:05pm

PaulTyrer

Member Since: 22 Jul 2013
Location: Devizes, Wiltshire
Posts: 1247

2006 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Cairns Blue

billcyn wrote:
Nothing to do with this RR reliability topic but am interested to know what the REAL reason for "check coolant level"
issue mentioned by RR2008HSE turned out to be as the daily "bong" and message is driving me nuts despite checking everything related!

Have you topped up the header tank with water or anti-freeze (the correct one)? If you fill it with only water, it lowers the specific gravity of the coolant which is monitored, if this drops below a certain SG you get the 'Check Coolant Level' warning message.

20th Feb 2015 10:25am

billcyn

Member Since: 20 Oct 2013
Location: Whitby
Posts: 56

Coolant at correct level also SG checked & correct - any other ideas?

20th Feb 2015 10:38am

stan
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start a new thread please.. ... - .- -.

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20th Feb 2015 11:00am

billcyn

Member Since: 20 Oct 2013
Location: Whitby
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Sorry Stan - got carried away!

20th Feb 2015 2:43pm

RR2008HSE

Member Since: 06 Jan 2013
Location: British Columbia
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ebajema wrote:
It is an interesting question and I would love to see accurate statistics on this covering all car brands and models. I think that would be very hard to come by because the impact on a brand could be huge. It should however be public knowledge, easily accessible and mandatory. I don't think it will ever be but it .

Remember, when it comes to accidents and deaths, both the car AND the driver would be relevant. A very well engineered and "safe" sports car may have a higher accident rate than a small city car just because those drivers who wish to drive very fast tend to buy sports cars and don't tend to buy wheezy little runabouts.

I can remember a particular model of single engine airplane that has a higher accident rate than its competitors just because the more "aggressive" pilots are drawn to it because of its performance.

And in the States, when it was first "discovered " SUVs roll over easier than passenger cars just due to their height, it was mentioned that London double decker buses have a MUCH higher centre of gravity than SUVs but don't fall over because they are driven properly by people who understand what they're driving.

20th Feb 2015 10:48pm

RR2008HSE

Member Since: 06 Jan 2013
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2932

billcyn wrote:
Nothing to do with this RR reliability topic but am interested to know what the REAL reason for "check coolant level"
issue mentioned by RR2008HSE turned out to be as the daily "bong" and message is driving me nuts despite checking everything related!

I PMed Bill, but, in case anyone else was wondering, I apologize for being mysterious. The coolant tank needs replacing (and probably the sensor). New coolant can't hurt either. Sensor £8 fitted. Tank £100 fitted. Approx.

Sorry, Stan. It's off topic, but it answers and closes the alternate thread. And I originally posted it before I saw your response.

20th Feb 2015 10:59pm

drivesafe

Member Since: 19 Mar 2008
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 126

DMRR wrote:
*yawn*

LR didn't make the alternator. LR didn't make the steering lock. LR didn't make the electronics that may have failed.

So who is supposed to carry the warranty on all these “foreign made” parts?

Land Rover may not make them, but like all other manufacturers, they are responsible for the quality and reliability of any products they out source. Something I think you are well aware of.

You shouldn’t have mentioned alternator in this thread if you don’t want to hear how bad LR parts can be.

And before you go making claims that LR alternators are no better or worse than the alternators used in other vehicle makes, go and have a read of some of the threads on alternators in this forum.

You will find there are quite a few HONEST members on this site who will tell you to replace a faulty LR alternator with some other brand, and that was the advice I got when mine failed.

Sorry I had the original alternator repaired and reinstalled before I got the advice.

This burying your head in the sand and saying nothing ever goes wrong with your LR when it quite obviously does, is the sort of response one finds on Toyota or Jeep forums, and is not what you would expect to happen on a Land Rover forum. 2007 TDV8 Lux

21st Feb 2015 6:28am

stan
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you do know that it was a small batch of dodgy alternators made circa 2007 that were affected....range rover alternators before and after that date are generally ok... ... - .- -.

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21st Feb 2015 7:39am

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