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sako243

Member Since: 26 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 608

2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Haylands wrote:
Did damage the sidewalls on three tyres, the FF is too wide for the little old tracks up there....

They are off being repaired, luckily I'd just got another set of wheels and tyres...

2010 Vogue wheels in gunmetal with Cooper LTZ's...

Pete, first of all thanks for providing me with an interesting read. I plan to follow your steps (raised intake etc) when I get a chance, but the FF is the daily driver so got to fit in around other stuff. Also have the fun of having a TDV8 so slightly different intake setup I think.

With regards to the lakes - I concur - took my FF up there soon after buying it and wrote off two new tyres (General Grabber ATs) above Coniston Water. Just don't have quite the meat of the 265/75R16 BFG KM/2s I had fitted to the Defender. Although the consensus was amongst my group (everyone else was in a Defender) was the FF was far more capable off-road, especially if it had been a little bit narrower. The chap following me couldn't believe how much it can articulate as standard.

Look forward to more updates.

25th Dec 2014 6:14pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Kaj wrote:
Excellent work Pete

Few jobs added to my list, electric fan and thermostat are in the top of the list as heat is a big concern since i live in Saudi Arabia and i do take my FF to desert every weekend .

I have got the X-Type fan , would you please explain how to make the connection on Fan cables and ignition switched wire from the ECU box to the controller , do i need to install a relay ?

Thanks

Kaj

Kaj,

If it still has the aluminium box with fins attached then that is a soft start relay, this is the diagram for it

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Brown/Green is a permanent 12v supply rated at 80amps
White/Green is an ignition 12v supply rated at 15amps
Black is an earth, should be the same size wire as Brown/Green
White/Blue is the control wire, I used a generic fan controller with a take off from the top hose

I fixed the fan to the rad with cable ties, drilled two holes through the top edge of the radiator in line with the two plastic hooks, and used cable ties to hold them in place. I cut off the top two side hooks as the bottom side mounts are in the same place as two plastic retainers for the original fan shroud I drilled two holes through the fan fixings and used cable ties through the fan shroud and around the plastic lugs on the rad.

I used a meter to find an ignition switched live in the ECU box...

chex wrote:
Would you make one of those fibre glass boxes for the snorkel for us if we asked nicely? =o

How did you attach it to the car to ensure a seal?

PM sent

sako243, yep, they are pretty unstoppable offroad, I've embarrassed a few Defenders....... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Last edited by Haylands on 4th Jun 2022 11:24am. Edited 1 time in total

26th Dec 2014 5:46pm

sako243

Member Since: 26 Dec 2013
Location: Wales
Posts: 608

Quote:
yep, they are pretty unstoppable offroad, I've embarrassed a few Defenders.......

I've yet to get to grips with it on slippery wet grass / mud. Too much weight and not enough tread but then I do have ATs on rather than than those fitted to the Defender...

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Having had a look under it in the pit last night I seem to have demolished the skid plate underneath the sump so maybe time to invest in a bash plate. Might ask the local trailer company if they can build one - knowing their workmanship it will be a damn sight cheaper, easier to source and better quality than most available.

Regards
Ed

27th Dec 2014 7:35pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

Went for it's MOT today, had it nearly a year now and done 16,000 miles in it, taken it swimming and mountain climbing, driven it like an old granny and sometimes like I stole it....

First job was to fix the handbrake that hasn't worked in all the time I've had it, and can't believe it worked for it's last MOT looking at the state of it...

Back plates had some serious holes in them as well and the brake pipes are starting to suffer with the tin worm, just changed the discs, pads and shoes today, will change the back plates and brake pipes when it gets a bit warmer...!!!

It then passed no problem..

So in the last year it's had

Brakes

New front pads
New rear discs, pads and shoes

Suspension & steering

New front Delphi airbags and struts
New front ARB droplinks
New rack end
New track rod end
Johnsons rods (waste of money, you could make your own...)
New upper and lower rear hub bushes
New genuine rear shocks
Bagpipe Andy's piston ring kit

Cooling system

New radiator
New hoses
New water pump
New belt tensioners
Two new drive belts
New air con condenser
New gas...
New oil cooler thermostat

Electrical

New alternator
New battery
New starter motor
New ignition switch
New throttle pedal

Engine

Oil and filter
2x Lambda probes

Gearbox

Oil and filter X2

Lights

Various bulbs and LED upgrades
New O/S rear light (thanks Craig)

Interior

New heated steering wheel
Carbon fiber wrap
New O/S/R door seal
New Android head unit

Modifications

Modified Disco D3 snorkel
New thermostat housing with 95deg stat
Twin electric fans and controller
Three piece underbody protection
Under bonnet lights (well it is a Land Rover)
Concealed CB with remote switches
Voltmeter
Tracker
IID tool

Wheels and tyres

18" wheels and General Grabber AT2 275/65/18 tyres

Last but not least

FFRR sticker

Ballpark figure for that lot I recon about �2,500-�3000 that's without labour as I've done the work myself, I don't think that's too bad considering it's condition when I bought it, the miles I've done and the abuse it's been subjected to.....

FF now drives great, is very comfy with it's small wheels and big tyres and for me is an ideal vehicle, smooth and comfy on the road, the best off road vehicle I've had (and I've had loads all extensively modified) and a van when the need arises...

Lots of mods still to do (and a few repairs no doubt!!!) but I need to get me sorted out first.. a few more joints required.... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Last edited by Haylands on 4th Jun 2022 12:26pm. Edited 1 time in total

3rd Feb 2015 8:52pm

mjdronfield

Member Since: 04 Nov 2011
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 7793

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

That's impressive Pete.

More miles than I've done in my diesel in over 3 years.....

I keep thinking I should get a tdv8, like the one Gaz has just posted up or I'm thinking RS4 or RS6..... Then I get in mine and think it's paid for....and I like it.....

Then I see an older SL500 AMG...... For less than 5k and wonder about having 2 cars again.....

We are never content. The RR tends to be all things to all men (and women).

I need to do the brake line that goes across the back end, so I'm told....

Mine was pretty unstoppable in the snow last week too, and not in a good way.... Got to walking pace and had a hell of a time to pull it up on the ice downhill runs.....

Keep up the good work. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

3rd Feb 2015 9:37pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

Mark,

I'd bank on doing the two flexies as well, yours can't be much different to mine and mine are pretty rotten at the joint, don't think they will come apart and be reusable.... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

4th Feb 2015 7:10pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

Just updating this thread and keeping everything in one place...

gearbox issues....

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic30897.html

Front caliper rebuild

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic31282.html

And done another job.... got fed up with looking at this, too tight to spend �120 on a new one....

Took it off, fixed the splits with a bit of plastic welding with a soldering iron, then covered it in vinyl and colour matched it to the seats....

Lets see how long it lasts.... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Last edited by Haylands on 4th Jun 2022 12:31pm. Edited 1 time in total

21st Apr 2015 10:32pm

Havank

Member Since: 05 Apr 2007
Location: Woking - Surrey
Posts: 193

That fix looks first class

22nd Apr 2015 8:32am

ebajema

Member Since: 24 Mar 2011
Location: New Plymouth
Posts: 4782

2010 Range Rover Autobiography 5.0 SC V8 Galway Green

well done Pete MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

22nd Apr 2015 12:51pm

chex

Member Since: 17 Sep 2012
Location: E. Africa
Posts: 130

Does the 32" wheel fit in the spare wheel well?

6th May 2015 9:38am

Welshdragon

Member Since: 20 Jan 2012
Location: here and there...but not where I should be
Posts: 1899

2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Monte Carlo Blue

Top job on the seat Pete, funny how they all split there! If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

6th May 2015 9:44am

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

Chex, I don't know mine is full of LPG tank... I would imagine it probably wouldn't, the normal one looks tight enough...

Mike, I think it's something to do with the size of my ar5e....

I actually bought the metal to make some sliders about a year ago but haven�t been fit enough to crawl about under the FF, still waiting for the other new hip and then a knee!! Anyway that�s my excuse�

We are off to North Wales this weekend and it is one of the most severe trips we do, you usually get some form of body damage so that�s next weeks job sorted!!! Anyway I thought I�d better get on with them�

I took the sill covers off last year and worked out that 80mm X 40mm X 4mm box section would be a good size for them, the sill is flat from front to back, the mounts for the factory jacking points hang down about 6mm, I wanted support along as much of the sill as possible so decided to fill in between the jacking points with some 6mm X 50mm plate.

Also found surface rust underneath the jacking points and along the seam of the sill

The plan was to weld the 6mm plate to the sills with captive bolts to hold the sliders on, then two supports into the original inboard mounts for the factory running boards.

First job, mark up the box section with the placement of the jacking points then cut the 6mm bar between and pop rivet it to the box section to hold it in place for drilling all the holes.

Then mark up 5 fixing points and three alignment holes and pilot drill all of them.

Offer it up to the car, held up with a trolley jack and clamped to the sill tight up against the protruding sill seam, then drill through all the holes into the sill.

Remove the box section and open out the top fixing holes to 12mm to accept the M10 A2 stainless bolts (I used stainless nuts and bolts throughout) Drill clearance holes in the sill for the bolt heads.

Then open up the bottom holes to 30mm to be able to get a socket on the nuts inside the box, this box section is strong enough to bolt right through without collapsing, but you then have nuts hanging down that get damaged when the sliders come into play.

I then realised that in my current condition there was no way I was going to be able to weld the plate to the sill so called a mate who said he�d do it for me�

I was just going to get him to weld the plate but he had some tree slider bars already bent up from a cancelled order (he makes bumpers etc for Defenders and Disco�s) They were just the right length. I didn't want them too long to cause problems with trees and logs getting stuck between the bars and the front wheel�.

We riveted the plate to the sills with the alignment holes drilled earlier and he soon had the whole lot welded up and bolted on and he tacked on the two supports, I got home and took them off, finished the welding (on a bench) and cleaned them up.

I wanted them galvanised so had to drill drainage holes in the box and the bars to let the zinc get in and out�

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Whilst they were being done I managed (just) to clean up the rust on the sills with a wire cup on an angle grinder, I also did the rear arches as they were getting a bit scabby, treated all the rust, seam sealed the plate and stone chipped the lot, including the rear arches as they get a lot of abuse off road, I top coated the arches to match the FF..

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There are ten holes down the sill covered with grommets, seemed like a good idea to take them out and inject the box sections with some cavity wax till it ran out of the drain holes

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Picked them up this morning looking very bling!!

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Soon had them bolted back on and the large holes sealed with grommets (see how long they last before they get knocked out??)

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Cut down the plastic sill covers to fit back on and job done�..

They don�t stick out too far�.

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They do look rather bling at the moment, it will get darker as it ages and I haven�t decided if I�ll keep them like this or paint them, they�ll do for now� kinda match the wheels!!! Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

Last edited by Haylands on 4th Jun 2022 7:30pm. Edited 1 time in total

6th May 2015 10:04am

chex

Member Since: 17 Sep 2012
Location: E. Africa
Posts: 130

Thanks for getting back to me

6th May 2015 5:42pm

chex

Member Since: 17 Sep 2012
Location: E. Africa
Posts: 130

Haylands are you still running without a thermostat? Any problems?

11th May 2015 4:18pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8190

Ran it for a few months without one, didn't seem to mind, then it started getting colder so I fitted an 80deg one.... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

11th May 2015 9:05pm

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