Keyless entry security.....a possible solution.

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic120277.html

Brilliant, I need one  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Looks like a solution. The sort of thing that JLR should be sorting.

But, if JLR sorted it this way... The crime will find a way around it... So, better to keep one step ahead of the bad guys EM

I agree with Craig, although I feel sorry for the people that don't have extra gadgets like this in their car. Now the search is on for good spots to hide the thing . Suggestions by PM please !!! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Hello All

Craig is quite right

The basis of this security vunerability is really quite simple to understand and follow in that ALL Vehicle manufacturers have to produce vehicles that are scrap if you loose all keys or can have a new key learned without having an existing one present.

So dealer diagnostic equipment, in this case SDD, must always be able to program new keys and EU legislation dictates that anyone can purchase SDD. In fact EU legislation mandates for cheap hardware options too.

Manufacturers can in essence "change the locks" as often as they wish, but ultimately as they also have to provide the new Key too, they are simply unable to combat this and are simply moving the goalposts.

Although initial media awareness of this vunerability which started nearly two years ago, initially seemed to affect only BMW's and other manufacturers were obviously quick to deny it affected them and was a BMW only problem, but as you now see from recent news and press this is obviously not true.

So despite JLR having two years to prevent or find a solution to this, and having since introduced new models, they have clearly shown that they are indeed unable to achieve this. Indeed last weeks watchdog showed a Range Rover Evoque having a new key learned in just 10 seconds !!!

Fortunately having recognised this vunerabilty would also affect JLR vehicles from the very begining and it was only a matter of time, and as long term experts at the very lowest level of CAN-BUS and especially diagnostic communications, We immediately initiated development of something that would totally combat this that we call the CAN-LOCK and allow owners to properly and fully protect their Investments from anything and everything possible, including SDD from accessing it for any reason or purporse.
We did not market it yet because up until this vunerability gained due media attention, no one would have believed that it was needed.

ebajema:
As you cleverly note, it is indeed where you hide the CAN-LOCK that is the most relevant factor.
As stated, it can be placed on the CAN bus literally anywhere as the CAN BUS runs right throughout the entire vehicle including into every door

If you have not seen the recent YOU TUBE demo video of the CAN-LOCK doing what it was specifically designed to do, here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-deKrZBndCU&feature=youtu.be

I welcome any questions

ATB

Colin 2003 4.4 HSE

I'm looking forward to them going on sale Colin, I am definitely getting one. I'm already thinking of places to put it, that is now half the fun  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Me too (PM sent to BBS)

For reference, the CAN-LOCK will work on any Model that has the Ford based Keyless Vehicle Module (KVM) fitted which includes Range Rover sports from 2010 on, including the new L494, Range Rovers from 2010 including the L405, Disco 4's and of course Evoques.

In fact we have just done another Video today of it doing it's KVM dissapearing trick on a brand new L405 that we will be posting up on You Tube in the next day or two

Fitment of this is so simple and the instructions so straight forward that even if someone does not feel inclined or sufficiently competant to fit this themselves, any Auto Electricians would be able to fit this easily and quickly.

You don't need any diagnostic equipment for CAN-LOCK to work, it is a simple case of connect and forget.
However for those with access to any kind of diagnostic equipment, it is re assuring to use that to confirm that the KVM is indeed no longer accessible.

I will post up any further news on this thread including when they are on our web shop, as well as a promo code for the launch discount, after which anyone can place an order

ATB

Colin 2003 4.4 HSE

I take it then that if you wanted to have a key programmed you would have to disconnect the can lock, then reconnect once the programming was done?

Interested more for the disco, as my ffrr is too old. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Hiya northernmonkeyjones

Indeed you are correct.

If you have a CAN-LOCK fitted and you wished to grant someone, including a dealer, access to the Keyless Vehicle Module, for any reason including the ability to learn a new Key, you as the vehicles owner and uniquely knowing where the CAN LOCK is fitted would have to first disconnect it to provide them access to the keyless Module. After which you could then re connect it to resume the protection it provides.

TBH i am struggling to hold my Tongue on LR's feedback in this aspect.

ATB

Colin 2003 4.4 HSE

As previously promised, here is a link to the short Video we just uploaded on You Tube showing the CAN-LOCK completly prohibiting diagnostic access to the Keyless vehicle module on even a Brand new L405 just as it did on the previous 2010 RRS demo Video. Sadly the SDD screen is not so clear but if you watched the first Video you get the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GbAGkx3AoY&feature=youtu.be

By brand new, i mean this vehicle is only days old and does not even have a Registration plate fitted yet.

It really does not matter what age or model the vehicle is, or what hardware or software the Keyless vehicle Module it is fitted with is or is running, the CAN-LOCK device when connected clearly makes the Keyless Entry module totally dissapear off the CAN BUS at even the base level of the SDD attempting to communicate with it just to ascertain it is present.

ATB

Colin 2003 4.4 HSE

 MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Hiya all

Although the usual last minute rush to sort this before we close for the weekend, and the picture is currently a bit rubbish IMHO, the CAN-LOCK device is indeed now available for purchase with a product code of AC035 at £78 GBP +VAT etc on our Nanocom-diagnostics.com sites Web Shop.

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