Went up to the Lleyn Peninsula with the tin tent on Friday for the weekend. Stopped in Pwllheli for LPG, when I started up again I had 'HDC Inactive' in the display, followed by suspension inactive. Stopped the engine and re-started, warnings disappeared. Drove to the tin tent site with no further issues, FF was running fine.

Sat morning, went to drive the 2 miles to Aberdarron for the papers etc. Started up, warnings as above. Ran the engine for 2 - 3 mins, switched off and re-started, all seems OK. Started to wonder if I was having the dreaded battery gremlins. Drove to Aberdarron, after about 1 mile engine cut out. Re-started, I now had 'transmission fault, limited gears available ' in the display.

Got to Aberdarron, did what I had to do, and on starting up to come away, had the 'transmission fail' as above in the display, along with a display of disco loghts in the dash (ABS, Brakes, HDC etc etc).

When I got back to the site, I left the engine running, and put my trusty AVO across the battery - 14.5v. so charging OK. Now. I thought, turn off and measure the cranking voltage - HA HA - no cranking or anything from the FF other than Land Rover in the central display, turning to sat nav as expected, and 'key in ignition' in the display. On inserting the key however, the steering lock was disengaging. Battery voltage was about 12.5.

Decided to call out 'the man who can', rang them, they advised they would be sending a local garage. Guy turned up, he was unable to connect his snap-on diagnostic tool to the diagnostic socket, it just continually showed 'establishing communications'.

He connected his jump start leads to the FF, still nothing other than the steering lock disengaging and the sat nav coming on - all warning lights on the dash were out, and 'key in ignition' on the display.
he checked all the fuses at some length, including in the engine ECU bay, and those in the rear compartment as well as the main fuse box. Couldn't find anythig wrong, and eventually came to the conclusion that it could be the ignition swittch, as it was recognising the key but nothing else.

Arranged relay for today. yesterday, tried dismantling the centre console to get at the ignition switch with a veiw to metering it and seeing if his diagnosis was correct, but got so far but no further as didn't want to damage the gear lever or the handbrake lever, and didn't have access to RAVE to see how to do things. After I had done this however, the steering lock is no longer disengaging, although the headlights and interior lights will come on, and I still get 'key in ignition' on the central display.

AA relay turned up this morning, I was originally going to get him to bring the FF and the Tin tent back home, and then get on to RAVE to have a go at the switch. he advised howver that if I found I couldn't repair it, they would charge (a small fortune in his words) to move it to a repairer, whereas if I asked him to take it to a garage today it would be free.

Rang Cambrian, usual story, they were totally uninterested in helping (I have had this before from them, I get the impressoion that if it isn't fair;ly new, and wasn't bought from them, they don't want to know).

They advised I contact Davis Land Rover at Llanybydder, who are apparently Land Rover approved - has anyone had any dealings with these people, and if so could they PM me with their impressions please?

At least Davis have agreed to look at it, it is being relayed there today, but they can't do anything with it until next week.

So I live in hope that it is something not too expensive, and would be grateful for any clues.  2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

I'd go with a duff battery  Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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My car's ignition / steering lock ECU has just failed and I am pretty sure the garage said there were fault codes logged, so hopefully if it is a steering lock ECU problem it wont be too difficult to identify. I sincerely hope for you it is not the steering lock / ignition / immobilisation ECU as my bill is going to be over £3,000.00 .

I certainly had none of the symptoms you described and whilst by no means an expert like these guys on here, it is very unlikely that the transmission has failed as well as a steering related issue so would sound more like electrical gremlins like battery issues.

Maybe a bit more of a pain to sort, but hopefully a lot cheaper. I have known of 4 RRs where assorted error messages etc. have come up and it has all been down to electical related problems, none of which were too expensive to fix. Good luck, hopefully someone with more knowledge will be along soon. 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 TDV8
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Did you/have you tried a battery reset?

Yes Craig, having seen a lot of posts on here over the last few months, I did follow the battery disconnection procedure, shorted out the battery leads, and then re-connected the battery, (prior to calling out the AA on saturday), unfortunately didn't change anything.

having read the likely bill for the relevent ECU in another post on here just now, am praying that:-

a). thats not my problem

or

b). I win euromillions tomorrow.

Thanks for your responses guys  2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

Sounds battery Ray, borrow mine to see if it helps, I have a spare one just firing the electric fence. If it dont work.......burn it!

If the IId tool cant fix it.......burn the FF.

If the FF cant be fixed......buy a Land Cruiser!

If the LC cant be fixed..............................................BUY a horse !!

Ray, may or may not be of use, I had a similar issue a couple of years back which after a shed load of toing anfd froing turned out to be the instrument cluster, had all power to car, lights etc but unusual messages, had to be done at a stealer (may have changed now), was about £1000, as an aside the stealer engineer remarked to my Indy who picked it up that it was 'only fit for the scrappy'...... nice

Mine did very similar.... was the battery, even though a snap on tester said it was OK, if there not spot on, the truck doesn't like it.... Pete

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Thanks for the help guys, I would have thought battery myself, but when garage man connected his jump leads on Sat, despite 13.5v available, nothing was happening.  2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)

Thats why I would discount the battery unfortunately, I had full power and still nothing, hope its not that

I would go battery as well. Got to be the cheapest and easiest thing to try. These monsters don't like have a battery which isn't 100%. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!

In addition to the battery I suggest to also look at the alternator. Have it checked by a good auto electrician because it can goose the battery and upset the voltage/current of the system if not working properly, independent of the battery and not always switch the generator fault light on.

Also have a look for bad connections, like the ground cable to the chassis and the clamps on the battery poles. Check the cables themselves (breaks especially).

It looks electrical but could be lot more than battery itself.

Does it happen with the tin ten connected as well or only or not ??? The trailer harness and tin ten wiring can also cause headaches sometimes

Sometimes we forget that the old school problems of bad connections/resistance/bad cabling etc. haven't gone away. Since your car is "of a certain age" it may just be simple old school issues at work here, at least I hope !! MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

I had a similar issue several years ago on an 06MY it was the ignition switch - £300 odd at mainagent sorted it 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

I remember another post on ignition switch where the barrel was left in place and only the switch itself was replaced. I thought it cost a lot less, maybe check with Dan of Duckworth what the price of the switch itself is before ordering via main dealer and the likes.

You can't be in a rush as you have the tin tent to sleep in  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Back home as of yesterday, FF at Davis in Llanybydder this afternoon, they are very busy and have said they may not get to it until next Monday, but will try to fit it in earlier if they have a gap appear.

Just keeping my fingers crossed that its not an ECU fault.  2006 (56 Reg) 4.4 V8 Vogue In Bonatti Grey (Gorgeous!!)