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philgv8



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Hi Pete,

Just wanted to say really enjoyed your post, nice one Smile
Been lurking here a while, but have now registered just to post this.
Excellent stuff.

Phil

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iphs



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This thread is top notch stuff. Well done Thumbs Up

Wish I had your knowledge and ability, could save myself a fortune.

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Winchester101



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I thought it was great as well Thumbs Up 1994 softail full stars n stripes custom harley davidson

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Scotland 2003 Range Rover SE Td6 Epsom Green

An amazing story and detail.
I also started off with an Epsom car.
It seems to really show the scratches up somewhat.
So much that I decided to wrap the car to protect what paint was left.

Weil done on the write ups and keep them coming.

Bofa Bill


You have a PM Thumbs Up

Have a wee look here. http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic17958.html Made in Scotland frae 'Girders'

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Haylands



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Thanks chaps, glad your enjoying it, next update won't be long... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Haylands



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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Done a bit more over the last week, when I fitted the top hose I had a look at the bottom hose and it looked OK, on closer examination with the fan and shroud out it was starting to delaminate so I ordered one of them and also an air con condenser and dryer as it had a leak and it's starting to get hot..... well it was when I ordered it!!!

Fitted them both and had it vacuumed out and recharged and it's still fine over a week later.... nice and chilly....

Then the waterpump saga.... siezed up on Saturday and snapped the belt


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Had to wait for a new OEM one till Tuesday, not too bad at �51, �18 for two new drive belts, then some antifreeze and distilled water, went back together fine...

Timing chain cover was slightly damaged and had a hot spot on it but it'll go again...





Probably start an argument on here but a thermostat that opens around 110deg to me seems just silly, every other part under the bonnet gets roasted, the plastic bit's dry out and fracture, the wiring hardens... and all for the sake of part throttle emissions!!! so I took the innards out of mine and it now warms up nearly as quickly, heater takes about 200yds further to start warming up and it's just so much cooler under the bonnet, you can actually touch bits!!!! I'll see how it goes in the winter, may fit a BMW 740diesel one which is the same as the FF but opens at 88deg

So cooling system all sorted apart from this which turned up today...





Electric fan set off a Jaguar, be able to take off the viscous one and control the temp better.... and wade deeper!!! with a viscous one you spray the engine bay with water when wading and they can snap blades off when they hit the water, this then results in overheating, with an electric set up it will be thermostatically controlled but have an override inside to turn the fans off whilst wading...

Got pi55ed off with the ridiculous reversing lights, give no rear vision at all, might as well not be there...

Came up with this...







took apart the old light and fitted inside




They don't look much better in a picture (new one on the left) but the difference is incredible... you can see to reverse!!!

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The girls bought me a new steering wheel from PowerfulUK for my birthday, old one was a bit smooth...

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Much nicer to hold and it warms up quicker as well

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Started making some brackets to fit the petrol tank guard, hopefully be fitted tomorrow

Got to play with big lumps of metal, the welder and the grinder.... It's good to be back in the modding off roader scene, welders not been played with for ages........


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Off for it's first real off road this weekend in Wales... lets see how it goes.... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Post #263277 4th Jun 2014 7:18pm
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iphs



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Your lucky I don't live in Hull anymore mate, I would be around your place every day Laughing

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Haylands



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Your more than welcome if you come back this way..... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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iphs



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England 2003 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Buckingham Blue

You are a saint mate.

Likewise if you are ever passing by Kings Lynn, let me know and I will put the kettle on and get the bacon butties going. Thumbs Up

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GraemeC



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Pete, this thread really is a great read, giving me the motivation I need to do all the little jobs to get my RR back to immaculate condition! 2007 Zermatt Silver TDV8 Vogue SE - now sold but was a great car!

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Haylands



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Glad your enjoying it chaps,

Finished getting it ready for a weekend offroading in Wales taking in the famous Strata Florida, made the brackets the other night and went down to my mates garage to borrow a ramp to fix the last two underbody protection plates, the fuel tank guard and the rear silencer guard, well I'm going to change the exhaust so thought I'd modify that guard to fit the transfer box cradle, fits very well, is nice and tight to the underside and out of the way, with a 113inch wheelbase I think it needs some protection here as it's going to take some hammering... Think it would survive a small bomb with all those guards...





Rear fuel tank mount, coming off the rear subframe mount, changed the bush bolt for a 130mm one and bolted a piece of 5mm angle to it... Decided to space the guard off a bit more to give the exhaust a bit more clearance, it's got about 5mm now which should be enough..

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All three in place, looking back from the front




Center and rear, you can see where the last owner of the guards had to grind the original bolts off





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Just needed a downward facing lip trimming off the back to fit (I've kept the piece in case I decide to use it where it should go, it fits to the tow bar but mine hasn't got one and I've got no plans for one, another reason to use it here)

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Looking from the back forward, the center plate is much higher than the front and back ones




Also had an irritating squeak from the front, turned out to be a rack end, the chrome has worn off the ball and the rough finish was squeaking on the nylon bush it sits in, new one in and all nice and quiet now

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All set for a weekend playing.... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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paul271



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Looking good mate and awesome write ups as always.

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Haylands



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Well where do I start.... what a D1ckhead!!,

Went off roading last weekend in Wales, we had two groups going opposite ways around a circular route that takes all day, we started off with the famous Strata Florida which is a track used by monks some time ago to go from where they lived to the Abbey for prayers, it winds up a gentle hill and has numerous river crossings, they are always quiet shallow, maybe 18" at their deepest, Rangie behaved well and handled everything thrown at it... met the other group halfway round and asked about the River crossing that can get deep at times, they had had no problems and reckoned it was only a couple of feet deep.

Some time later we arrived at said crossing and knowing the Range Rover can handle that depth without a snorkel I went first as I was leading the group.... well this is where D1ckhead comes in.... it had been raining hard all morning but had now brightened up, they had crossed the river first thing, it was now pretty late in the day.... yes, you can see where this is going..... Into low box, suspension set to maximum, not too fast but fast enough to push a nice bow wave, in I go...!!!! Got about a car and a half's length into it and the water is several inches up the windscreen!!!!! so much for 2ft more like 4ft, nothing else to do but floor it and hope for the best... well, we didn't make it, it sucked in enough water to stop the engine and we ground to a halt about 2/3rds of the way across, tried once to restart but it wasn't having it.... We were in about 2 1/2 foot of water, it was 1/3 the way up the outside of the doors.... Lee, the chap behind in a snorkeled Disco came to the rescue but by the time he's overtaken us, got out the other side, stripped to his pants, waded in, fixed the tow rope and pulled us out the door seals had let about 6" of water inside....

Got out and let the water drain out, as said about 6inches in the cabin but the boot was full to just under the spare wheel cover... disconnected the MAF from the airpipe and it was sopping, turned it over and after about 20secs it caught and ran well, surprise surprise the radio had stopped working, then the EAS pump cut in, dived for the button on the dash to turn it off but it had run for a few seconds.... left it ticking over and draining out for some time whilst the others negotiated the river... some went the long way on the road, sensible folk....

After it had stopped dripping copious amounts of water we carried on did about another hour of off roading including a very nice set of rock steps with some serious axle twisters and side slope... Rangie was the only one that made it up first time.... Set off back to the camp site where most were staying (I don't do camping so we were staying in a hotel near by) and various funny things started happening, lights coming on and going off on their own, radio screen flashed into life a few times...

We then went into Aberystwyth for some tea, came back to the car and it wouldn't recognise the key, played with it for a bit, disconnected the battery a few times and it eventually started and we got back to the Hotel, dropped Deb off as she is just recovering from Breast cancer and gets tired easily, and went back to the camp site to sit around the fire and tell tales.... Left about midnight and again had trouble getting it going, took 40mins this time, drove back to the Hotel, left it running, woke Deb up and we decided to go home then rather than wait till the morning and maybe end up on the back of a flat bed.... drove the 240miles+ home without problem, disconnected the battery, had a few hours kip then stripped out all the seats, the boot and the carpet, the radio, amp and TV unit had been totally under water as well as the BECM and the EAS pump, all taken out, stripped down and blasted with contact cleaner to drive out the moisture, all plugs treated the same, then all put in the airing cupboard to dry, mopped up the standing water and put my dehumidifier in the car, it's pulled out several ltrs since Sunday, the carpets are the worse bit, backed with between 1-6inches of dense foam, left them propped up to drain off but it's all just dropped to the lowest part of the foam and stayed there so this morning I hired a carpet vac and have sucked all the water out of them and given the carpet side a good clean whilst I'm at it....

New cabin filter and air filter fitted as well...

I'll put it back together over the weekend and see what still works, I sent off for an IID tool this week as I'm sure something will show a fault but none had come up by the time we reached home, then I suppose it's hit ebay for some spares... Funnily the radio module in the boot had evidence of water damage before, a fair amount of green fluff growing on the contacts inside, It was probably from a spillage as the boot is always bone dry, including the black felt covering behind the units, the BECM is covered in thick varnish so I am hoping it's ok but not holding my breath!!!

It seems to be an easy job to relocate the BECM, most wires come from the front of the car, it would only entail lengthening a few wires and it could live in a higher up place behind the dash somewhere, maybe modify the little cubby hole under the knee light and fit it there, not going to do it now as I want to find out whats bust before I start modifying it and add another item into the equation.... the sat nav unit in the boot was high enough to be out of water but it's in the airing cupboard as well just in case... I do plan on changing the head unit for one of those chinese units so most of the other stuff in the boot will be redundant anyway.

The EAS pump worked fine on the way home and the suspension did what it should but the dryer was sopping wet as was the rest of the internals so may have to work on getting water out of the system, It vents the pressure on dropping back through the dryer to dry out the crystals that have got wet by moist air entering so hopefully several dumps of the entire system will get the water out and back into the dryer, then bake the crystals again in the oven to dry a few time and maybe?? it'll be OK....

If anyone has any ideas for anything else then please chip in, using a L322 for offroading was always going to be a learning curve, I accept the responsibility, after all it's just a car.....

The funniest part of it was watching Lee wade through the icy cold Welsh river water, the look on his face when it reached his cohonas was priceless....

And the other thing to mention is there is absolutely no rust at all on the inside of the floorpan and sills of my 12year old example, if it had been a Disco 2 I'd have been welding all week....!!!

This pic is taken just after the deepest part, a bomb hole as you enter the depth is getting less and less





All stripped out, a few pics in case anyone is interested whats under the carpets....

There is a depression all the way down the inner sill for the wiring loom, this was still full of water..


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This is where the BECM lives





Dehumidifier doing it's thing


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Garage full of bits...


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Thickness of the foam on the carpets


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I shall update with more as it happens...

I recon I can modify a Disco4 snorkel to fit the FF so that is pretty high on the list now!!!! Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

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Post #265247 13th Jun 2014 3:43pm
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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover SE Td6 Zermatt Silver

Worth noting the LR D3/4 RAI are not watertight as designed for clean air not watertight-ness. (Can be made watertight though)

Air intake inside front wing of RR may be more difficult to add a watertight snorkel too....

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appj62



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Awesome! Previous cars:
S-Max 2007-2013 (only diesel I've had, good car but expensive when diesely bits go wrong, so what's the point?)
Galaxy 2001-2007
Mondeo Estate 1997-2001
Sierra Estate 1993-1997
Uno Turbo 1987 -1993
Fiesta 1984 - 1987
Fiat 127 1982 - 1984

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