Ok. All bulbs arrived except the side repeaters.

Unfortunately, as suspected perhaps, the reverse lights are about half an inch too long.

Fitted the led bulbs into the rear indicators, and whilst they are definitely more yellow than Amber, just due to more light behind the oe orange lens, they do look fine and I'm happy.

Unfortunately, the glass dome over the LEDs on the bulb is not glued on that well, so turning the bulb to spring into place resulted in the glass bit coming off in my hand. On the next one, I turned the base, and all was well.

Unfortunately (again !) I cannot get my sausage like fingers anywhere the nut thing to remove the front units, so they have not been changed. Will need to come up with a plan there. Who thought up that fastening system must have had a recent bang to the head......... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

You seem to have been quite unfortunate

The front indicator/sidelight units are a pain, in many ways it is worth doing a front upgrade just to get rid of that problem.

And, even if the plastic nut/wheel does turn, not guarantee that the whole wont just spin anyway ..... the whole lamp units can be taken out, I have done this solve the same problem, just need patience and somewhere warm.

Unfortunate - Chapter 17

Unfortunately, whilst the hazzard lights worked fine, which is what I used to test, whilst out on the road today, if the indicators are used, they flash that fast, its difficult to imagine they could flash any faster.

So, unless someone tells me that the problem will go away if I change all 6 indicators, it looks like I shall be returning the rears back to stock, and staying OE.

Unfortunate really, as the side repeater LED's arrived today.........

 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

strange that, mine work ok although very very slightly faster...

Just had a reply from the eBay seller who suggests a resistor would sort the issue. £6 for a pair........ 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Don't know if the year of car makes any difference to the effects of plugging in these LED bulbs Mark but the LED bulbs I've put in the SC were all sold as canbus, error free although with the obligatory 'you might need to buy resistors' warning. They have given no faults and flash at an identical rate to the OE bulbs that they replaced. They're not quite as bright as Stan's upgrade LED's though (I don't think anyway Stan?)

The only thing I've noticed is the so called disco lights effect that happens when you start the car up and the LED bulbs briefly flash by way of letting you know they're all working.

Looking on the net regarding the "hyper flashing" as it seems to be called, you can fit a resistor on each bulb, but they get really hot, have to be wired in parallel and can't be mounted to plastic or paint. Plus the wiring is not that accessible from what I can see.

A better more straightforward fix is to get an led flasher relay unit.

Unfortunately (again) the L322 does not have a flasher unit, it is all done by the LCM. The LCM does not send a message to the dash if an indicator fails (I'm told) it just relies on an increased flash rate to warn you that a bulb is out.

Now if I could just get the LCM to not increase the flash rate, we'd be away........ 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

i think you'd be better off getting some different bulbs ..

All led bulbs packaged up and ready to go back to the bay sellers

Have not given up. Just been delayed.......

For what it's worth, I wouldn't put any higher than the 20w LEDs behind the orange lens on the early models, or the resultant light output is going to be too yellow........

Just my thought..... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

the white cree type bulbs give you more lumens than the coloured bulbs so i agree with your max watts..

Having spent some time searching the net, it seems that the hyper flashing could be resolved by disabling all the monitoring on the LCM. I have the iidtool, but decided to use navcoder as it has the option to disable cold, warm and warning settings, whereas the iid tool seems to allow the first 2.

I unpacked the bulbs and put back in the car, fired up navcoder and read the LCM to find that none of the settings were set, and that other than cold test, it said my version of LCM did not support the other settings, ie the options to change we're greyed out.

So, unless you put load resistors in with the led bulbs, I don't think this is a viable option at this time. Shame really.

If you are happy to use extra resistors, the bulbs I bought will look just nice.

If I could get an led bulb which exactly mimics the old bulbs........ 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

according to the ebay listing yours already have resisters in them so in theory they should ok or they could be faulty....

what happens when one side is OE bulb and the other LED, does the LED side flash quicker than the OE side?...

Yes, different flash rate each side. I believe the resistors in them are just to stop the errors on the dash for bulbs being out. but it seems they still present a significant less load on the system.

My understanding is that the LCM does not normally report indicators being out, it just increases the flash rate. The cold and warm and warning options were not enabled on my LCM (or they were, and I don't have the option to turn them off - greyed out), so it must have been down to less loading on the circuit. They are fine when the hazzards are used.

I get what you are saying - not sure what load they really present on the system though.

The ebay seller says I need separate load resistors to present the same load as the original bulb on the system.

The BMW chaps on their forums have the same issue with hyper flashing, but no error on dash. They have to use extra resistors or disable options in their LCM's, which seems to work if the LCM is a few years newer than mine. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

the trouble with the FF rear indicators is that they are in a kinda 'circuit' board panel which will make it hard to fit resisters...
i cant understand why my ones flash ok [very slightly faster than OE], maybe cos they are a bigger wattage than yours?

you mentioned that fitting more than a 20 watt led might wash out the amber but what about fitting bigger wattage amber bulbs? being coloured they wouldnt be so bright and being more wattage they should make the flash rate better..

Now theres an idea Stan........

Mmm..... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport