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paul271



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Scotland 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green
Fuel pumps!!!

    Hi guys. I've been having some ongoing problems with the fuel supply on my TD6.
    Could someone tell me how many fuel pumps
    I have?! I know there's one in the tank, I've just replaced the one beside the passenger rear wheel, is there a 3rd under the bonnet?
    Got Fault code P1180 which also mentioned the filter in the description it gave me.
    The car dies at low speed then takes about 5 mins of patience and cranking to get going again.

Post #230728 21st Dec 2013 9:40pm
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adigorn



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you have 2 low pressure pumps
one intank one outside
and injection (hi/press) on engine

Post #230745 21st Dec 2013 11:36pm
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paul271



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Scotland 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

Cheers mate.
It would appear its a low pressure problem and i have a feeling its due to the uber cheap low pressure pumpi fitted a few weeks back! It could be it was too cheap!!!

Post #230753 22nd Dec 2013 2:25am
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47p2



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I've found that if I fit non OE cheap parts they don't last, cost more money as I have to buy twice, spend twice as long under the bonnet. Easier sticking with genuine LR parts

Post #230782 22nd Dec 2013 10:39am
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paul271



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Scotland 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

I'm seeing the light the hard way mate!!

I just need to be sure its definitely that one that's goosed!

When it dies and the cranking begins i'm pretty sure i can hear the fuel tank pump whirring away.

The huge worry is i'm the taxi driver for xmas day and i have a fair few trips all over Aberdeenshire to round up and drop off! Think i'll get it recovered to my local Indie today and see if he's got a pump he could fit tomorrow.
If not then its car hire time and the last minute xmas shopping i had planned is out the window as i cant afford the car hire, repair and xmas!!! Crying or Very sad

Post #230791 22nd Dec 2013 12:30pm
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adigorn



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Whats the fault codes???

(when intank unit fails it displays IGN SYS FAULT on dash
when remote (outside one) dies there will be no message
but thats only guidance

computer scan is a must Thumbs Up

Post #230817 22nd Dec 2013 3:27pm
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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

When mine failed, the one under these passenger side sill, there were no codes or warning. It just cranked over without starting.

The chap from the AA pulled the pipes off the fuel filter under the bonnet and nothing cane out when I turned the ignition on, so pump was not running.

I understand they can stick and you can bang the pump to get the car going, but that only buys you a day or two. 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport


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Post #230830 22nd Dec 2013 3:57pm
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adigorn



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Quote:
When mine failed, the one under these passenger side sill, there were no codes or warning. It just cranked over without starting.


that's what i am saying remote one = no warnings

however there always will be fault code in ecu

Post #230834 22nd Dec 2013 4:03pm
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paul271



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Scotland 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

p1180 was the code that kept coming up.
It did display the same injection system failure message that it did the last time.

Post #230842 22nd Dec 2013 4:22pm
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adigorn



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If you are getting the message on clock INJ SYS FAULT
its the intank pump goosed Thumbs Up

Post #230843 22nd Dec 2013 4:24pm
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paul271



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Is that a definite in tank pump or is there a chance it could still be the easy one?!

Post #230868 22nd Dec 2013 6:53pm
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adigorn



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Message on dash means In tank - sorry bud Big Cry

Post #230871 22nd Dec 2013 7:02pm
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paul271



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Big Cry there goes crimbo!!!

Post #230877 22nd Dec 2013 7:41pm
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adigorn



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At the end its not that bad to change
at least can be done from the top

and you can change pump only
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Post #230879 22nd Dec 2013 7:45pm
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paul271



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Scotland 2002 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Epsom Green

I can only find the whole units for sale! Because I live in the city centre I'll probably have to recover it to my Indy. Can't really do much work on a narrow one way street!!!
Up until now the contestant barrage of problems hasn't bothered me but this might be the death knell.

Post #230880 22nd Dec 2013 7:51pm
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