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twhincup



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2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver
Radweld equivalent ruined car?

Hi Guys, the ff has been running well so luckily not had to ask for much help until now Cool

I had been losing coolant at about a litre a month so whilst buying some more today i bought a radweld equivalent at the same time on the logic it would creep in to the place its losing coolant ans seal it.

Well about two minute after adding it to the header tank i get a loud clicking noise, and a bit of a scraping sound. that's not too good i say so think i should try and drive it, 30 seconds later the fan belt is off and mangled around the pulleys, water p1331ng out every where and the car is looking generally fooked Big Cry
why do i think stupid ideas like this?

Any way, I'm going to try and tackle what i can tomorrow, does anyone have any similar experience or tips they can share before i start?? 2007 3.0L Diesel VW Touareg SE
2003 4.4 LPG, Vogue, Silver

Post #196915 29th Jun 2013 11:34pm
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mzplcg



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That sounds like a seized water pump to me. I had similar on a Sierra about 20 years ago where it was the pump leaking and the radweld got into the water pump bearing.

If the serpentine belt is shredded it sure sounds like one of the pulleys stopped turning so I would check to see which one and go from there. Odds are on it being the water pump though as it's chucking water out. And I really would get the radweld out and flush the system though with clean water.

Post #196924 30th Jun 2013 7:00am
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KurtVerbose



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New rads not expensive.

Post #196932 30th Jun 2013 7:39am
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adigorn



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if the Fan still is where it should be
damage should be limited to new water pump (which was knackered anyway)
and quite common on 4.4
and a new belt


Not bad you will be ll right Thumbs Up

Post #196934 30th Jun 2013 7:53am
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twhincup



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yep i reckon the water pumps gone too as i don't think the fan is supposed to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFsYLBBcCO8&html5=1


I've ordered a pump and belt, i just need to source a pulley lock tool as we tried every other way to undo the fan nut but just ended up obliterating the pulley itself Sad 2007 3.0L Diesel VW Touareg SE
2003 4.4 LPG, Vogue, Silver

Post #196973 30th Jun 2013 10:58am
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twhincup



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interestingly the belt is still in one piece, but changing it as were going in there anyway. I'll try and do a photofix, or at least instruct the wife to take photos as i go Very Happy 2007 3.0L Diesel VW Touareg SE
2003 4.4 LPG, Vogue, Silver

Post #196976 30th Jun 2013 11:00am
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Rob2529



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

That's where you leak has been. You water pump is Censored . The rad weld will ave sped up its failure. I would get the rad weld out ASAP. Expect to start getting transmission problems due to it overheating as rad weld loves to Censored up transmission coolers. The water pump doesn't come with a pulley so you will need a new one. When you take the pump off be careful not to putt the 2 pipes coming out the back. There only push fit with o rings and they run to the rear of the engine so are a Censored to put back in without taking other bits off. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
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Post #197056 30th Jun 2013 9:01pm
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twhincup



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Thank guys, much appreciated. I'm waiting for a friend to source someone to do this for me as I fell at the first hurdle - the f&^%ck&*^%in viscous fan bolt. I've no tool to remove it and I've to wait and get a new pulley too. Couldn't have come at a much more inconvenient time Embarassed 2007 3.0L Diesel VW Touareg SE
2003 4.4 LPG, Vogue, Silver

Post #197726 5th Jul 2013 6:48pm
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twhincup



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The guy who helped me out No.1 was guy off here who lent me a tool to hold the pulley, which split on application, the second guy who came to help out and is a technician could not get the 32mm nut off with his usual shock off hammer on chisel so we took a blow torch to it eventually which did the trick. He didn't have anymore time so I ended up doing the replacement myself following the excellent procedure in the wiki on this site. Its not such a bad job, just a few things didn't pan out well for me.

Anyway, new pump on, system refilled, and only one schoolboy error of not fitting SAI pipe back on properly Censored which meant another hours work

she's now up and running again, in for 3 tyres tomorrow and MOT Thursday, then away with the caravan next week 2007 3.0L Diesel VW Touareg SE
2003 4.4 LPG, Vogue, Silver

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