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Elduke



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Scotland 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

Cheers for that Jerry I'll be sure to keep an open mind Thumbs Up

Probably a bit more concerned now about the current owner only owning it for a few months Rolling Eyes

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jerrytlr



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France 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

That is a bit more worrying but then again - he bought it and found he didn't like it as much as he thought he would, so decided to sell on? I have done that before. Again it boils down to asking the right questions, ideally BEFORE making the trip to see the car....

What is the reason being given for the sale?

Cheers

Jerry

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jerrytlr



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France 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Also - and I had to keep telling myself this when I was looking for an L322 recently - remember you are looking at a car that is almost 10 years old and has 100K miles on it, and you are looking to pay maybe 15% of what it cost new. Be reasonable in your expectations!!

Cheers,

Jerry

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Elduke



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Scotland 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

Yeah I appreciate its almost a ten year old car and you are getting alot for the money Smile

Reason given for sale was that a family member had just passed test and couldnt get insured for it reasonably so would rather move it on than pay thousands for the insurance.

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Rich86



Member Since: 10 Mar 2013
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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze

Don't believe that story about the driving test. You don't buy a Rangie and then suddenly sell on a whim.

Didn't they know the family member was going to pass their test?

Bull Censored . There's something wrong with it.

. 2009 Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze
2002 Vogue V8 Zambezi Silver
1986 90 Pick up Deep Bronze Green
1978 Series III SWB Deep Bronze Green

Post #185025 27th Apr 2013 5:07am
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Elduke



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Scotland 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

I suppose when you see the car it speaks for itself as everyone seems to have some sort of story when selling so I usually do take them with a pinch of salt as I it doesnt really matter what story they are telling you as long as the paperwork and condition match up.

It does however raise alarm bells when the story seems unlikely Mr. Green

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

If you have alarm bells going off in your head then walk away... It's going into silly (cheap) season for FFRR sales as the suns now appearing... Thumbs Up

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TtheArab



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2003 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Giverny Green

Where is the car? I'm up in Dunblane and might be able to take a look at it with you. Having had my one now for a couple of months I think I have had at least 70% of the little hidden things appear that I was unaware of before getting the L322.

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Rob2529



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Oslo Blue

Where is it? There may be a local member who can give it a look at to see what's what before you drive to view. I would add these cars are amazing but things do go wrong with them. If you start your ownership with a thought in the back of your mind something isn't right or you aren't 100% happy it will only grow and turn your ownership into a mess. Find one your happy with and all questions have been answered to your satisfaction. Then you will be happy and can live with the future problems as and when they arrive. [img]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/rob2529/range-rover[img/]
04, 4.4V8, Vogue Oslo Blue with LPG.
"You can sleep in your car, BUT you can't race your house!!!!"

If something can't be fixed with a hammer....... You have yourself an electrical fault!

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Elduke



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Scotland 2004 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

Thanks for the offers guys but this particular car was in the north of england and have decided to pass on it for now. Apart from the question marks over history and short ownership it wasnt my first choice of colour so rather than making do I'll hold off a bit longer and wait for my ideal combo which is silver with a coloured interior as opposed to grey which most of them seem to be.

The one I missed on ebay would have been good and I spoke to the chap selling it whom seemed to be totally genuine but yet again he had only owned it for just over a month which got me dithering. It didnt matter anyway as he sold it the next day as I was waiting on more pics. Given that Iam narrowed down to colour Iam just hoping its isnt too long away.

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alanm_3



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Scotland 2017 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Maybe it's just my observation, but I think silver is the least popular of the popular colours (if that makes sense)! Whistle

What I'm trying to say is, there are fewer silver cars than black and grey, so you might have to wait a bit longer to get your preferred combination of colour and interior. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

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Rich86



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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze

Alan you're probably right. I had to look around to get the right colour combo as I wand two tone Aspen and ivory...

. 2009 Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze
2002 Vogue V8 Zambezi Silver
1986 90 Pick up Deep Bronze Green
1978 Series III SWB Deep Bronze Green

Post #185558 29th Apr 2013 5:23pm
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Bofa Bill



Member Since: 04 Apr 2013
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Scotland 2003 Range Rover SE Td6 Epsom Green

Weil, I have been reading this thread for a wee while noo and here is my story.

I did what I know one should NOT do when buying a car, any car.

I was blinkered to wanting an RR.
Hit flea bay and found ONE local to me.
Garage, phoned him up and he offered to drive the 30 miles to let me view it.
In fact looking back, I think if he could have driven doon the phone then he would have.
An hour laters, and he was at the door.

Nice car.
(remember, I was blinkered)
Test drive and it all worked as it should.
Looked round and round it.
All seemed ok.
Very very limited service history.
No receipts just some stamps in a book.

He offered £500 discount ther and then.

Everything looked spot on but all, all too easy.
I said I would leave it.
He left.

I couldnt sleep that neet and I dont think I spoke to anyone.

The following morning the phone rang, yes, it was The salesman, owner of the wee garage.
Asking the usual.
When I said no made me mind up he knocked another £500 off.

Arranged to pop oot and see him next day with 'the war dept' as she will Want to see it etc.

Too late, I asked him how much for cash and he almost took my arm off.
Another £1000 off it.
And he would throw in the worthless warrantee and pay for the private reg transfer.

The car was mine.

With the exception of........

4 tyres,
Suspension pump,
Egr blanking,
K+N type air filter,
Re-map,
Fuel lift pump,
2x rear bushes
Various other wee personal thingys
the car has been awsome.

And the smile is still as BIG as the day I test drove it.

So, to follow on from the thread, even withoot a service history, and showing 124,000 miles ther can be good ones oot ther.

Oh, it cost £11000
30 months ago
2003 TD6
Now showing 154000 miles
It haid a 'VOGUE' badge on back and the V5 said likewise but some of the trim diferences I dont know if reet.

Anyways, touch wood it is ace to drive and we have done 30000+ miles in it and it has been 'worked' for sure.

(if this is in the wrong section then apologies) Made in Scotland frae 'Girders'

Post #185675 30th Apr 2013 12:49am
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Rich86



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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze

I think you'll know when you find the right car.

I don't think it's a good idea to set yourself a date to find one as it doesn't work like that. Buying a car is ALWAYS a gamble, especially with older cars. I always rely on instinct.

When I bought mine the guy said he was selling the car as his business had taken a down turn and his wife was pregnant with twins. The car hadnt been serviced since just after he bought the car 18 months before and I scratched my head thinking he'd skimped on maintenance although the car looked mint and the book was stamped but there weren't any receipts.

After driving the car I told the guy what I'd pay for the car. He said no but phoned me later on. It needed new tyres, rear brake discs and the heated seat wasn't working, but the car was mine for what I wanted it for although there was a long wait of 3 weeks for him to change his private plate.

The most important thing when buying one is to think that many people don't collect garage bills when they own a car. If the book is stamped and it looks and drives right then talk about the price, think whether you can afford it, add £2k for contingency in case the gearbox or something else goes then make your decision. He also gave me the name of the LR specialist who had serviced the car and the guy told me what he'd done and what was recommended but hadn't been done.

I would never buy any car, let alone a Rangie from a second hand car dealer although I'm sure good cars can be had this way. I used to work in the motor trade and I know the tricks of the trade and the way cars can be tarted up. Mostly the warranties aren't worth the paper they're written on and even with many LR delaerships they don't want to know if you return with a problem. For these reasons I always buy cars privately. Meet the owner and judge for yourself whether you think they've looked after it and make an informed decision. In my case even though the service was overdue I believed his story about his reason for selling and I took the plunge knowing I'd need to spend some cash sorting a few things.

Set yourself a radius that you're prepared to travel up to. Say 50 miles or so unless it really does look mint in which case it will go quickly. I wouldn't be too regimented about things like a tow hook as this can easily be added afterwards. Set your standards, boundaries and budget and take a mate to look at it so that you have second opinion. Never make a decision on the spot. Even if you go and have a coffee somewhere. Walk away and think about it as this will allow you to digest the facts and it will also keep the buyer keen.

Within reason spend as much as you can afford, keep in mind resale value, but keep some money back for later as there will inevitably be a list of things to do and things you want to add.

. 2009 Vogue TDV8 Nara Bronze
2002 Vogue V8 Zambezi Silver
1986 90 Pick up Deep Bronze Green
1978 Series III SWB Deep Bronze Green

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