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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Found this on the RRS Supercharged but I sure FF Supercharged has similar:

The Terrain Response set-up has been upgraded to include a new, sixth setting called Dynamic Response. This uses an adaptive damping system, in conjunction with the air suspension, which can make calculations about the road and driving conditions 500 times per second. This model also gets an updated Brembo braking system.

Presumably the system is set up to provide a sportier ride than the TDV8.....

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Its hard to get any real evidence other than the electric locking diff on the Supercharged.

It would seem that changing to the Terrain Response and stiffer active anti roll bars put the same system in all the models from 2007 on....

Not sure if the higher air pressure is a rumour of fact.

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Only the Sport has the Terrain Response additional setting, which is called Dynamic Program and alters steering, accelerator and gearbox mapping, not anything to do with the suspension. Dynamic Response is actually the active anti-roll bar system used in the Sport - some confusion in that quote. Adaptive Dynamics is the name of the adjustable damping system which the Range Rover proper got with the 2010 facelift.

If we've ascertained that the 2007-9 Supercharged car uses the same part number air springs as the 2007-9 NA petrol, then increasing pressure would also increase ride height.

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Higher air pressure in the airbags just makes it lift higher thats all, the pressure stays the same unless the weight increases.

I think the adaptive TR might be something in the FF.

Shouldn't Mick be on this like a rash seeing as he has driven these ones as well and can compare? FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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And the e-diff was an option on TDV8's and so on, though if fitted to all SC's would help them get off the line and keep the power down in corners more. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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Trommel wrote:
Only the Sport has the Terrain Response additional setting, which is called Dynamic Program and alters steering, accelerator and gearbox mapping, not anything to do with the suspension. Dynamic Response is actually the active anti-roll bar system used in the Sport - some confusion in that quote. Adaptive Dynamics is the name of the adjustable damping system which the Range Rover proper got with the 2010 facelift.

If we've ascertained that the 2007-9 Supercharged car uses the same part number air springs as the 2007-9 NA petrol, then increasing pressure would also increase ride height.


I am in agreement that the 2007+ Supercharged appears to have the same suspension set up to the TDV8 and 2007+ AJV8. Thumbs Up

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kingpleb wrote:
Higher air pressure in the airbags just makes it lift higher thats all, the pressure stays the same unless the weight increases.

I think the adaptive TR might be something in the FF.

Shouldn't Mick be on this like a rash seeing as he has driven these ones as well and can compare?


I think I may have driven more than a few 2007+ Supercharged, TDV8 & AJV8's.....

Mick's Supercharged was a 2006 Whistle

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As above, the TDV8 has different front struts from what I can ascertain, presumably because of the additional weight of the engine.

Should be easy to confirm on Microcat.

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The electronic rear differential was also available on the normally aspirated V8 as an option. I've got a US spec V8 HSE LUX 2008 and my mechanic and I were both surprised to find it had one. He found it while doing routine maintenance and I found it when offroading and the info screen showed it was there and locked. We both thought it was a nice surprise when we compared notes. Later, I found it on the original build sheet.

To the OP, I thought everyone got the SC suspension for 07+, but I could easily be wrong. I CAN say the my 08 corners far, far better than anything with its mass should.

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As far as I can tell my 2006 SC does not have the rear e-diff. When I try to talk to the ECU with the Faultmate it says not installed. MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Just to revive this, i have an opportunity to buy a 10 plate TDV8 Vogue, am i right in thinking it has adaptive dynamics being the facelift car?

Its been suggested that even the facelift doesn't handle as flat as a S/C, is that true?

I cant afford a 5.0 S/C so the TDV8 is the option i have, but would a 2007 S/C be a better purchase? Im coming out of a Cayenne Turbo which handles a lot flatter and feels much more car like but its no Range Rover.

That said i recall my 2007 TDV8 Vogue feeling a bit floaty and i sold it as a result, it didnt impress me like id hoped it would.

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I guess your choice of model depends heavily on what is the most important criteria to your style of driving.

I doubt even an SC will compare favourably with a Cayenne, if that's what your priority is.

As has been said previously, maybe getting an IIDTool and dropping the height might give you what you're looking for?

I came from a MY07 SC to a MY08 TDV8 and to be honest, I didn't feel much difference. In saying that, I already had the IIDTool from my SC, so dropped the height as soon as I had the TDV8. Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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carlos50 wrote:
Just to revive this, i have an opportunity to buy a 10 plate TDV8 Vogue, am i right in thinking it has adaptive dynamics being the facelift car?

Its been suggested that even the facelift doesn't handle as flat as a S/C, is that true?


The 2010 facelift cars have adaptive dampers (wires coming from the front strut tops).

Anti-roll bars are the same, the heavier engine and different front struts of the TDV8 will mean it won't drive exactly like a contemporary Supercharged one.

No L322 is going to drive like a Cayenne - if you need a (rough) approximation of that, get a Sport.

If you're lowering ride height, presumably you're also correcting alignment?

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