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mikey446



Member Since: 13 Mar 2013
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2003 Range Rover HSE Td6 Baltic Blue
td6 geachange

Hi, this is my first post,
i have a 2003 td6 and the gearbox seems to work ok but it will not shift down in manual however it will shift up, the switches on the gear stick check out ok. also if i boot it to the floor it goes like stink untill about 75mph in 5th then i loose all power and if i stop then go again it revs but only creeps along for about 30 seconds then picks up as normal! any info would be great.
thanks. I'd love to agree with you but then we'd BOTH BE WRONG!!

Post #177659 14th Mar 2013 8:26pm
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barracuda816



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Vogue SE Td6 Tonga Green
Re: td6 geachange

mikey446 wrote:
also if i boot it to the floor it goes like stink untill about 75mph in 5th then i loose all power and if i stop then go again it revs but only creeps along for about 30 seconds then picks up as normal!



Hi Mikey,

Welcome to the forum, im not sure about the downshifts, i assume it works ok in D and is the kickdown working as it should?

With regards to the above problem, i would check the simple things first, when was the fuel filter last changed? Also does it do it if you accelerate slowly to around 75mph then over? Does it feel like fuel starvation? Do you get any warning lights?

If you are looking at doing the work yourself and keeping her for a while i would seriously look into getting a IDD tool (do a quick search on here for all the info on that). I have one and its invaluable for diagnosis. Unfortunately without further diagnosis the power loss cound be anything from a partialy blocked fuel filter to an overboost issue to a maf issue.

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mikey446



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2003 Range Rover HSE Td6 Baltic Blue

Hi barracuda816,
Thanks for the reply, Its fine if i accelerate slowly. when it loses speed it still revs hard but only goes slow its almost like the torque converter gives up then recovers! The kick down works fine as do all the other gearbox functions, gear changes in low box are a little harsh to say the least. as for keeping it I had my 4.6 for 10 years and hopefully this will do as well, i will look up the idd tool thanks. I'd love to agree with you but then we'd BOTH BE WRONG!!

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barracuda816



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It may be worth dumping the gearbox fluid and replacing, if nothing more than to see the colour and smell (plus its allways a good idea to replace the oil with nice fresh stuff).

LUC have been known to go but as far as im aware usually dont just slip, it usually causes a judder or no drive.

If you do dump the fluid, have a look at watsons lubricants;

http://www.watsonlubricants.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=81

Post #177675 14th Mar 2013 9:32pm
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mikey446



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Yes think your right, its a good place to start and i bet its never been done.
thanks for replying. Thumbs Up I'd love to agree with you but then we'd BOTH BE WRONG!!

Post #177685 14th Mar 2013 10:43pm
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ahebron



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Hi Mikey446
Mine does a similar thing when hoofing it uphill and tends to be on left hand bends. Full throttle it will drop power for what seems an eternity then kick back in. I have my gearbox rebuilt and it still does it. Funny thing is my old 300TDi Auto Disco would do the same thing at similar places.
I have no idea what causes it so try to drive around the issue.
Big fines over here if caught giving it welly over 100kph. If rumoured 1kph tolerance kicks in I will never be able to put my suspension in highway mode, legally Wink

Adrian VW Amarok 2014 Highline auto

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VaguelyVogue



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Buckingham Blue

The kickdown and recovery issue sounds like the symptoms that my TD6 had prior to the fuel pump stopping - so worth getting the fuel pressure tested!

Also - have you checked the gearbox fluid level - whilst the engine is running with warm fluid at (from memory 35-40C) - a low level can cause all sorts of gear change issues?

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ahebron



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Thanks for that VV. was it the under car pump or the in tank pump that was replaced on our TD6?

Thanks
Adrian VW Amarok 2014 Highline auto

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speedymarktd6



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ahebron wrote:
Hi Mikey446
Mine does a similar thing when hoofing it uphill and tends to be on left hand bends. Full throttle it will drop power for what seems an eternity then kick back in. I have my gearbox rebuilt and it still does it. Funny thing is my old 300TDi Auto Disco would do the same thing at similar places.
I have no idea what causes it so try to drive around the issue.
Big fines over here if caught giving it welly over 100kph. If rumoured 1kph tolerance kicks in I will never be able to put my suspension in highway mode, legally Wink

Adrian


Mine appears to loose a bit of drive or it gives that impression on left hand bends its done it for about 4 years but i just thaught it was me never looked into it tho onto no6 Range Rover

Everyone needs a hobby

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VaguelyVogue



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Adrian - I am pretty sure that it was the under the car pump - I just checked the invoice and it says pre-pompe (it was done in Switzerland) and my notes at the time say "low pressure fuel pump".

Have you tried tapping the pump with a hammer http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic13841.html (that might have saved me at the time)?

Post #178230 18th Mar 2013 6:14pm
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