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headlamp failier whilst under speed at night

hi guys

firstly, i have posted about this problem in the technical section, so sorry stan if this is the wrong place to put this, Embarassed , but i think everyone should be aware of what happened to me as the more i think about it, the scarier it becomes.

so i have decided to contact Landrover uk to see what there opinion is as i feel it is a real saftey issue .

i was traveling down a national route in rural france, at around 11 30pm, at around 100km hr. there is no street lighting on this road, but it is nice and straight and probably similar to a good uk A road. nice and wide.

without any warning, i lost my headlights completely Censored i was actually plunged into a panic and hit the breaks hard as it is as black as the ace of spades around here this time of year. at the same time i fumbled with the switch by turning it off the back on again and the next few seconds they came back on again. (thank fCensored ). even in the short space of time, a few seconds, i had not managed to bring the car to a stop and as the lights came on, i was actually swerving toward the side of the road.

anyway it was a bit frightening to say the least to lose your vision even for a few seconds at that speed, and if i had been on a road that i was not used to, it could have been a serious accident at least.

at the end of the day, it does not matter what has caused this fault ( yet to be diagnosed ), but for sure it must be a component failure of some sort, and i would have thought it should qualify to be be considered a recall senario Question Question

i am not suggesting this because of the cost of replacing LCM ( if this is what has failed ), its only a couple of hundred quid, but its what it does when it fails , is the point, and that simply has to be deemed as extreemly dangerous Question Question Exclamation Exclamation does it not Question

anyway, the symptoms are in my post in the tech section, if anyone who hasen't seen it fancies a gander, but i would be interested in your views as to whether i am on my own in the opinion of the contact to land rover uk etc

i look forward to any views

kind regards

bob

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I can sympathise with your very unfortunate and very scary situation Bob, but sadly cars aren't designed like aircraft, where there are built in redundancy for critical systems, so any failure could become life-threatening very quickly. Imagine losing all brake fluid for instance and having no way to stop.

Im sure LR will express sympathy, but I doubt it will go any further than that.

Bloody scary all the same! Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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I think its a good case for YOU driving with your fogs on!

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glad you're ok Bob but i would have seen to the light problem before venturing out at night.. ... - .- -.




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Post #174552 25th Feb 2013 7:58pm
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stan, i DID NOT have a light problem when i drove out for the night in the first instance. it happened out of the blue on the way home Exclamation Exclamation

i had not before known of what was about to unfold, otherwise i would not have driven the car until it was sorted obviously

bob

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Bob... Did you fix your previous fault with the lights? The flickering? If not, I am surprised you would go out with known dodgy lights... Previously..
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I was waiting for that reply! Rolling with laughter Got - 2017 SDV8 Autobiography in Loire Blue
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hi contraband, there seems to be a bit of confusion here i can see. the post you are reffering to about the lights going on and off is what i am now talking about in this latest post which i have just put in the general listing. so to clarify, my lights suddenly went out on the way home last wednesday night WITHOUT any prior knowing of any fault.

they went out for 2/3 seconds then came back on for 17 sec, and continued to do this until i got home some 5 mins later.

so i posted the issue in the tech listing last week so this is all about the same problem which is not yet sorted. i have not driven the car at night since and obviously cannot.

after getting home, i later put the lights on to see what was happening, and that is where i realised that the on /off sequence was actually on for 17 secs and off for 2/3. Exclamation Exclamation it does this continuously without fail.

if was suggested that it might be LCM failure, which i have still to get to a garage to check it which is easier said then done around here Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

i have done the battery re connect proceedure which did not change anything.

does that make things any clearer Question Question Question , i am just posting now as having thought about what happened is and could have been extreemly dangerous, and thought i may make a contact to Landrover uk?

Thumbs Up bob

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Clear now.. Thumbs Up
Does it happen when your lights are turned round to auto? Previously..
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Post #174559 25th Feb 2013 8:25pm
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ok mate thats good, as i would not want anyone to think i would be that stupid to drive a car at night with a lighting problem as bad as this one Whistle Whistle Whistle

but i expect i probably worded thinks in not the clearest of ways as usual. do you think one of those idd tools would be able to clarify where the problem was,

bob

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If it was throwing up a code, then yes, the tool should pick it up...
Have you tried the lights in the auto mode???? Previously..
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yes i was in auto mode when it happened actually. out of a matter of habit i always turn the switch fully on to auto position when i go out at night. but i always turn it fully off.

so if i put the switch in normal headlight position 2 they go out as descibed. on 17 off 2/3

in auto mode the same happens;

also it makes no difference if it is just dip light on or high beam, the same happens every time

very odd aye

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by the way it does not throw up any code warnings .

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Ah, did you say before it happened on dip AND main beam? They are 2 seperate bulbs, so it's not likely to be a ballast. Previously..
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You should try owning a Lotus!!

I used to have a Lotus Elite (the pointy supercar not the cute 60's one). Driving back from a party in deepest Suffolk at 4am (sober) down country lanes between beet fields. Suddenly all black everywhere. Arrgh !! Brake! brake! brake! (It actually did in a straight line, there was a first!)

Stopped, kicked the car a few times, and the lights came back on, but was a scary journey back to the west of London until I hit the lit section of the M25!

Never found the loose earth. Traded for a Rover 800 which dropped a cambelt, but that's another story!

Bob, suggest you find yourself a good auto electrician, who will have the know how to trace such faults. .
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