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Fox

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Java Jungle wrote:
There really still isn't anything else to go for anywhere near as good. Even if you don't need the 4x4 ability, nothing compares to the driving position / feel....does it ?

100% agree!!!

JJ

At the moment, no.

But there are some nice luxury 4x4s on the way from Bentley etc...

9th Jan 2013 7:14am

IanV8

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Nick

You mention the addition of "the remote control of the air suspension when hitching the trailer" but that is already on the L322.

Ian

9th Jan 2013 7:41am

Java Jungle

Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
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Fox, if the artists design of the Bentley 4x4 that was published a while a go is anything to go by, well then I'd rather keep mine for a long long time

JJ

9th Jan 2013 8:56am

Philip

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The Bentley is only ever going to be a pretend off-roader for the Chinese and criminals from the Caucasus. I doubt any of the new rivals will provide similar off-road ability - maybe the rumoured big Mercedes will be the closest in that respect.

Regarding the original point, there's no question to my mind that the exterior design of the new car does not have the dignity of the original L322.

9th Jan 2013 12:59pm

Nick Ground

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Well spotted on the air suspension remote adjustment. I stand corrected.

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9th Jan 2013 1:10pm

Fox

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Trommel wrote:
The Bentley is only ever going to be a pretend off-roader for the Chinese and criminals from the Caucasus. I doubt any of the new rivals will provide similar off-road ability - maybe the rumoured big Mercedes will be the closest in that respect.

I didn't think 90% of Range Rover customers ever tackled more than a curb and a bit of grass.

9th Jan 2013 3:27pm

Philip

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Without the off-road ability it isn't a Range Rover and wouldn't have its reputation, whether it's used or not (although I do question why people who never leave tarmac buy them).

9th Jan 2013 4:19pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

Member Since: 22 Jan 2010
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Bentley have a reputation to keep, don't be surprised if the new car "Works" offroad.....

9th Jan 2013 4:54pm

Philip

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The Bentley R&D boss has already said it won't match the Range Rover off-road.

9th Jan 2013 6:29pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

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Not match but I bet it works. Most RR buyers are interested in Road presence over 4X4 ability.

9th Jan 2013 6:40pm

Philip

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Not really the point. A Range Rover without the off-road ability (see the 2WD Chavjoke) isn't a Range Rover. Says more (less?) about the people who buy them for those reasons.

If Patek started making watches with ETAs in them, what would happen to their reputation and image? Bentley don't face the same issue because off-road ability isn't one of the tenets of their brand.

9th Jan 2013 6:54pm

Gazellio @ Prestige Cars

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I think we arguing to agree

My only point was I think the new Bentley will have an off-road ability albeit not as good the RR.

9th Jan 2013 6:58pm

ebajema

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You mean the Bentley will get the Toerag 4WD kit MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

9th Jan 2013 7:02pm

Philip

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The supposed Dakar entry for EXP 9F/Falcon/whatever is presumably an attempt to give it some credibility, but it will be one of those spaceframe "Touareg" racers underneath, just like the road car will be on the next Touareg/Q7/Cayenne platform.

9th Jan 2013 7:19pm

Fox

Member Since: 02 Apr 2010
Location: Essex
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ebajema wrote:
You mean the Bentley will get the Toerag 4WD kit

And therefore do everyting 99% of Range Rover owners need.

I agree with Gary/Gazellio, people buy a Range Rover for the image and road presence.
Especially all the new cusomers, most of which will only use them on the road.
The Evoque is proof you can stick the badge with 4x4 heritage on a new model, make it 2WD and sell it in droves!

11th Jan 2013 11:13am

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