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Muddywheels



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Bad news IMHO for JLR and Britain!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20384431 Sad

The nails in the coffin me thinks Evil or Very Mad Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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RR8701



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no surprise - give it two years and JLR in britain will be a very very small downsized production plant as it will be much cheaper to build in other location - I am very gutted

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47p2



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Just what we need, the Chery on the icing Whistle

Post #151838 18th Nov 2012 3:35pm
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BrianC



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I think they are going to built and sell them there as the import duty was a fortune to buy and import

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Muddywheels



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This is just the start - just look at others to see the next step Sad

90% are exported so the duty could not have been putting too many off Rolling Eyes Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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cass



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But just think about the improvement in product/build quality

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mjdronfield



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Ordering options will not be as straightforward......

I'll have number 9, 14, 16, 21, 34 and 42...........

Rolling with laughter

I do all my own jokes you know !!

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MPK



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Goodnews for the owners, a nail in the coffin for GB PLC.

No doubt that Censored vince I'm a socialist Censored cable will put a positive spin on it.

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TugRR



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Ah, but, remember chaps "Made in Britain/England/UK" still counts for alot around the globe. JLR here is small fry as a global player - they need to expand.

My money's on the next Duffender as "Made in India" - that's when they'll start clawing back from Toyota in Third World / emerging countries . . . .

Thumbs Up Where do you go after one of these . . . ?

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crookedm



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Maybe when they're built over there some of the quality control processes that are clearly lacking over here will be improved. Sad news for the UK but sadly other countries can build cheaper and better. We need to up our game otherwise we will continue to see this trend.

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Turbo Tony



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JLR have told workers in Solihull that their jobs are safe until at least 2021. Researching my first Range Rover purchase

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MPK



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Turbo Tony wrote:
JLR have told workers in Solihull that their jobs are safe until at least 2021.



Did they also inform their colleagues

The cheques in the post
I love you
No of course I won't cum in your mouth
No their backsides don't look big

Shocked

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Philip



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TugRR wrote:

My money's on the next Duffender as "Made in India" - that's when they'll start clawing back from Toyota in Third World / emerging countries . . . .


I doubt they'll really go after that market - they will be a "lifestyle-focused" company largely selling off-road look-alike "leisure" vehicles as urban fashion accessories.

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jim2RRs



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Had to have seen this coming.

"Made in UK still counts for a lot around the globe".
pardon me while i laugh my ass off.
What it counts for is leak and squeak.
British cars are known around the world for being unreliable as hell, and the only thing worse than a British car is an Italian car.
BMW then Ford were the best things that ever happened to LR.
The STYLE of British vehicles can't be beat.
The execution of that style was never a particularly strong point.

I love my Rovers, and they have a very strong and very loyal following around the globe.
But, to be perfectly honest, they are high-maintenance vehicles, completely unsuited for most of the motoring public. LR is doing everything they can to make them less and less user-repairable.
Which is fine, I understand why.
I didn't buy either of my Rovers new, so LR made nothing from me.
I don't buy parts or supplies from dealers, so LR makes nothing from me.
I understand they have to capture the folks who buy new and use dealers for service; and I also understand that's pretty much everyone on this board.

I also understand why moving the manufacturing out of UK would make some of you guys sad.
I'm buying my daughter a (2012) Jeep Wrangler for her 16th birthday next spring.
That will be the last Jeep we ever buy, as they are going to start making them in Italy. Thank you, Fiat.

Her Wrangler will be our third Jeep.
They just work. Minimum fuss. (in my experience)
I don't have to think about my wife's Grand Cherokee. Ever. At all.
Which is good, since worrying about the Rovers consumes quite a bit of time.
So now Jeeps will be made in Italy. See above note about most unreliable vehicles on the planet.

So we wait and see what the build quality is like for the "Made in India" vehicles.
Worst case, it returns to the Censored quality of 70s-90s Land Rover.
After a few years, they'll figure it out.
I hope. Jim
2000 NAS HSE
2005 NAS HSE

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Philip



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In my experience Jeep make Land Rover look like a paragon of build quality. Have had the misfortune to use a KK Cherokee - a rubbish car. A Freelander 2 feels twice as expensive and a million times more desirable.

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