A question for you guys then...


What constitutes an OVERFINCH then?

You can order a brand fire new car from OVERFINCH with a bodykit and a set of wheels and its an "OVERFINCH" you can take your used FFRR to a number of garages including Guy Salmon and OVERFINCH themselves and they will fit the same kit and its an "OVERFINCH"

Long gone are the days when craftsmen bespoke hand built you a car with turtle shell wood, mink seat covering and an elephant skin roof liners, a crazy engine and suspension setup and a gazillion pound price tag etc etc etc...

I personally think the brand has now been caught by the likes of HAWKE, KAHN and others even overtaken by the likes of Land Rover with the Exterior Design Pack and Ultimate models...

Craig

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I agree Craig. Its just trinketry glued on. Discovery 4 HSE
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A question for you guys then...


What constitutes an OVERFINCH then?

jfb1977 wrote:

It's like people who stick M badges on their 3 series "because it's the M Sport" or AMG badges on their Mercs "because it has an AMG bodykit". Doesn't make it an M3 or an AMG though does it?

You see it on all kinds of cars.

I know a bloke that bought an SL350 and spent thousands making it an exact replica of the SL55 AMG.

He was dead proud of his efforts until I got him to talk through all of the money he'd spent buying and modifying the car and just asked "But couldn't you have just bought a real one for that much...?"

He went a bit pale. It was as if the thought had never even crossed his mind! D'oh!!  Past (too many to list, but a few favs)...
2007 Porsche 997 C2S Coupe
2007 FFRR 4.2 S/C
2012 Jag XKR 5.0 S/C
2014 Merc SL500 AMG 4.7 V8 BiTurbo (remapped to 560BHP)
2011 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE - Overfinch Conversion
2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
2018 AMG C63S Estate
2015 Mercedes GLE63S
2017 Maserati Levante Diesel
2017 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 Black Edition

I am considering putting the standard black land rover badges back on however its not really the same as people putting amg badges on mercs or m3 badges on 3 series imo as this cars are known for there high powered engines and this what makes an amg or an m3 for instance, however as overfinch dont seem to touch the engines these days its more of just a styling package imo but perhaps i should wait till i have all the overfinch bits on then put the badges back on.

Also a genuine question here, are 'overfinch' cars marked on the log books as overfinch or just a range rover ? because if there not or dont have a plaque with build number etc how do you know there original?

I've always wondered that too.

My assumption was that they must have it on the log book - otherwise - like you say - how do you ever know?!

Hopefully an OF owner will be along to tell us shortly.  Past (too many to list, but a few favs)...
2007 Porsche 997 C2S Coupe
2007 FFRR 4.2 S/C
2012 Jag XKR 5.0 S/C
2014 Merc SL500 AMG 4.7 V8 BiTurbo (remapped to 560BHP)
2011 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE - Overfinch Conversion
2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
2018 AMG C63S Estate
2015 Mercedes GLE63S
2017 Maserati Levante Diesel
2017 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 Black Edition

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RRUK wrote:

jfb1977 wrote:

It's like people who stick M badges on their 3 series "because it's the M Sport" or AMG badges on their Mercs "because it has an AMG bodykit". Doesn't make it an M3 or an AMG though does it?

Agreed!

When I had the M5 I was gobsmacked at the audacity and stupidity of 520 owners who tried to badge up their piles of sh!t with M badges, I even saw one where he'd put a fake (horribly sticking out badly) quad exhaust on. Hilarious. Should have seen his face when I pulled alongside (had to slam on the anchors right next to him for visual effect of me slowing to his crawl) Dropped a cog, spooled up the 5.0V8 and off I went, laughing like a drain!

Saw a 5 series just the other day where the guy had put an M badge on the boot, nothing else, and he'd put it on the wrong side! What a tosspot!

Can I refer you gentlemen to the discussion on Top Gear 2012 episode 7, the M5 test. In this discussion the gentlemen (for lack of a better term ) discuss the quality of the current 5 series and whether the M5 is worth the extra 30,000 odd GBP. Maybe these "poor" 5 series owners feel justified to put M-badges on their less superior beamers because of these "minor" differences.

Personally, and M5 or AMG or the likes should only be badged such when the really are for all intents and purposes.

As for the S/C discussion, I can live with the changes of grilles/vents/tail lights as I do think they look a lot nicer than the standard grille, vents and tail lights but the supercharged badge should only be on a supercharged otherwise it is just a pretentious bullshity thing to me, same as the M and AMG badges and IMHO a bit sad.

As for the Overfinch badge discussion, I can see the justification, if the car has a certain number of genuine OF parts fitted (no matter who fitted them) then the badges are justified (don't ask me how many parts). It is the same as racing cars with stickers of what oil or brakes they have, they are actually fitted to the car. Personally I would only put OF badges on when the work was actually done by OF.

Now the next question is, when do we see Cam-Tech Craig (CMC ???) badges appearing on his work (other than his own vehicles of course)  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
Have the Faultmate MSV2 Extreme to be tinkering with the settings etc. !!

Saw a Vogue the other day where the guy had bought some chrome SE lettering and stuck it on the back next to the existing Vogue badge.

Not only did the colouring not match, but the SE was about 1/4-1/2" too big as well..

Looked like a right prat....

jaiscossie wrote:

Also a genuine question here, are 'overfinch' cars marked on the log books as overfinch or just a range rover ? because if there not or dont have a plaque with build number etc how do you know there original?

No they are not marked on the logbook, neither is there an up to date register any longer as the records were skipped when they were taken over by auto brokers (so i was told by more than one Overfinch employee)


Craig