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angelboy



Member Since: 13 May 2012
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Are they wrong or am I?

I'm looking for a FFRR Vogue and every now and then I see adverts that say Vogue HSE or HSE but the rear end picture of the car has a vogue badge on it.

Is it common for HSE owners to change the badges?

I thought that the HSE range didn't have the sat nav or could this be specified as an option? The reason I ask is one ad sad HSE, had Vogue on the back and a sat nav so I just assumed it was a Vogue.

What other 'tells' should I be looking for to determine if the RR is actually a vogue?

I've seen an almost perfect car which is advertised as a HSE but again, has the vogue badge. I don't want to have a wasted trip.

Post #123698 26th May 2012 6:47am
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hoppy



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England 2003 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Adriatic Blue

dont think the "HSE" has a sunroof....only the vogue

Post #123700 26th May 2012 6:54am
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Cam-Tech-Craig



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England 2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

All optional on an HSE... Dead give always are the dash top and grab handle/elbow rest will be in stitched leather in a vogue and in non stitched leatherette in an HSE the seats have an expandable seam running down from top to bottom and the front seats are a different shape and style in a Vogue...


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Post #123704 26th May 2012 7:02am
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Googsy



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Ireland 2008 Range Rover HSE TDV8 Java Black

I have a Vogue badge on mine Cool Present :2008 TDV8 HSE
Gone Audi A5 2.7TDI
Gone Discovery 3 HSE
Gone Mercedes CLK
Gone Range Rover 2.5 DSE

Post #123707 26th May 2012 7:30am
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Alistair



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Santorini Black

If someone actually lists it as an HSE then it probably is - the problem is usually the other way round because the FFRR doesn't have a name like 'Sport', there are a lot of people out there who generically refer to the model as Vogue, hence the Vogue HSE ad. You may see HSE's advertised as Vogues, even when still badged HSE !

Not uncommon for them to be re-badged or even have a number of Vogue bits as factory extras

Post #123708 26th May 2012 7:51am
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The Brains Trust



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Australia 2003 Range Rover HSE Td6 Adriatic Blue

hoppy wrote:
dont think the "HSE" has a sunroof....only the vogue


My HSE certainly has, as mentioned, you could option an HSE with pretty much everything, which is one of the reasons I don't think I found 2 identical cars when looking for mine.

I know what I drive, and I am happy with it, so I don't see a need to stick a Vogue badge on it... Wink

Post #123726 26th May 2012 9:09am
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Reformed



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Mine is an HSE and apart from the Sunroof, mine is pretty much Vogue spec. As has been mentioned, I dont think no 2 are the same, depends what options were ordered from new. Mine was originally owned by a local(ish) wealthy business person and was driven by his wife, so he ordered alot of options. Would probably have been cheaper for him to have brought a Vogue for her anyway back in 2003!

I would go on what you are happy with owning. The only badges on mine are "Range Rover" and the Oval badge on the grill, which I did change to a black one, and yes I know mines not supercharged, but it goes with the colour!

Allthough if the seller is advertising it as a Vogue, I would check that it is. Reformed

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johnson1



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

As others have said, the only real way to tell is the different seat style.

Post #123746 26th May 2012 1:01pm
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Vogue



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and even then, a lot of owners of older HSE's have bought Vogue seats from a breakers yard to upgrade their HSE's. The only categoric way is do a check on the VIN - any decent main agent should be willing to do this.

Do not get stung and pay over the odds for a specced up HSE badged as a Vogue, you might be happy with it, but it will come back and bite you when you come to sell it.

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GJOB



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2005 Range Rover Vogue SE Td6 Java Black

And not to forgot the Vogue SE just to complicate matters Wink

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Here are the specs from the brochure, that I did for a different thread - hope you can enlarge and read OK ;

Click image to enlarge


Click image to enlarge


When I find the thread, I'll drop a link in.

Here we go ;

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic11619.html?highlight=brochure

Cheers 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #123818 27th May 2012 11:18am
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angelboy



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Excellent - thanks!

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wedgel322



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Santorini Black

Just to add more confusion, mine is a hse and has tons of extras including front and rear electric seats which according to above pics says was not available as an option for hse! 2003 Range Rover HSE 3.0 TD6
Java Black, Cream Leather Heated seats all round, Sat Nav, Rear TV's.
2013 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
Black, black and piano black. Rear entertainment system. 22 inch turbines

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mjdronfield



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Rolling with laughter

Who knows ?

Certainly not Land Rover !!

Must have been a special order or something.......... 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8

Previous cars :
2003 Range Rover Vogue TD6
1999 Discovery Td5 ES
1995 BMW M5 3.8 6 speed
1992 Range Rover 3.9 Efi Vogue
1992 BMW M5 3.8
1988 BMW 735i SE
1989 Ford Sierra XR4x4 2.9i
1981 Ford Fiesta Supersport

Post #123842 27th May 2012 6:22pm
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angelboy



Member Since: 13 May 2012
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I'm not interested in this car but I think this is an example of an ad that's just wrong.

There's no Sat/Nav which, from what's been said, were standard on the Vogue, but it does have a sunroof and heated rear seats which must be an option.

In fact when I take a closer look it even says HSE on the back!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-Vogu...051wt_1139

Post #123867 27th May 2012 9:25pm
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