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baba



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100k 05 vogue bad idea at milage/age?

Been struggling to find a low miles vogue that ticks all the boxes so started looking at other options and theres one ive saw that look perfect exept its just turned 100k miles.
Ive been told at that kind of milage on pre-facelifts you start getting trouble with boxes/diffs?Is this true and if so true for the facelifts?

Post #83624 24th Sep 2011 1:10pm
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kingpleb



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Bonatti Grey

Mines on 127k now and fingers crossed wil be ok. Depends on the life its had really. If its been towing and been pushed hard then the box and diff's will have had a harder life i guess.

Also after 100k you cant get a good warranty on the car either which never helps.

Post #83626 24th Sep 2011 1:36pm
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barrieeld



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just bought a 2006 vehicle with 140k on the clock goes like a train! The reason i bought it was it had full dealer service history from new and wanted for nothing with 1 owner. Like any car you can tell if its been looked after and 9/10 if it has regardless of mileage it should serve you well.

Id be more worried about buying a 60k vehicle to be honest...

Post #83640 24th Sep 2011 5:44pm
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JustinP



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Vogue SE Supercharged Java Black

barrieeld wrote:
Id be more worried about buying a 60k vehicle to be honest...


Why Question 
Gone - Range Rover Supercharged 2006

Post #83650 24th Sep 2011 7:06pm
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barrieeld



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JustinP wrote:
barrieeld wrote:
Id be more worried about buying a 60k vehicle to be honest...


Why Question


because at 60k most vehicles are just breaking in and big undesirables like gearbox air suspension etc if there going to go will go around 60-80k mark.

my opinion anyway....

Post #83657 24th Sep 2011 7:58pm
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Pauld



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United Kingdom 2004 Range Rover Vogue Td6 Zermatt Silver

If they go at 60-80k, surely they will go again at 120 -140k.....

I ran mine to 120k, 5 gearboxes, etc...

I wish I had kept it. My original plan was to run it to 200k but got scared.

I would buy a 100k Range Rover if it had FSH and as obviously looked after.

Check the obvious like the gearbox, it should have been replaced, (if diesel) the front diff (recall) and all the electrics work

Post #83661 24th Sep 2011 8:16pm
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barrieeld



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Pauld wrote:
If they go at 60-80k, surely they will go again at 120 -140k.....

I ran mine to 120k, 5 gearboxes, etc...

I wish I had kept it. My original plan was to run it to 200k but got scared.

I would buy a 100k Range Rover if it had FSH and as obviously looked after.

Check the obvious like the gearbox, it should have been replaced, (if diesel) the front diff (recall) and all the electrics work


i agree my point really was at 60-80k a cars true characteristics wont be shown as its just being run in.

Post #83664 24th Sep 2011 8:22pm
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bozmandb9



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I think a 100k Vogue is absolutely no problem. To be honest I think mileage is really pretty irrelevant on these cars. My previous S/C had 40k more miles than my current one, but if you had to judge them on condition you'd place them the other way round (not that there's anything wrong with my current one, it's just that the previous one wore the miles really well).

The only real difference is that you pay a lot less for the higher mileage car, so it'll depreciate at a slightly lower rate, and you get more for your money.

I don't have experience of gearboxes on the TD6, but I'd say on the petrol, if it's had an oil change it should be fine. Front diff recall, just need to check that it's had the recall work done, nothing to worry about if it has. One the facelift it's not relevant/ doesn't apply.

So go for it! Thumbs Up Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

Post #83669 24th Sep 2011 9:27pm
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baba



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bozmandb9 wrote:
I think a 100k Vogue is absolutely no problem. To be honest I think mileage is really pretty irrelevant on these cars. My previous S/C had 40k more miles than my current one, but if you had to judge them on condition you'd place them the other way round (not that there's anything wrong with my current one, it's just that the previous one wore the miles really well).

The only real difference is that you pay a lot less for the higher mileage car, so it'll depreciate at a slightly lower rate, and you get more for your money.

I don't have experience of gearboxes on the TD6, but I'd say on the petrol, if it's had an oil change it should be fine. Front diff recall, just need to check that it's had the recall work done, nothing to worry about if it has. One the facelift it's not relevant/ doesn't apply.

So go for it! Thumbs Up


So the facelifts had the diff problem sorted from the factory?Handy to know.
Yes i wont get one thats showed obvious signs of towing/hard life.
And il change all oils etc for piece of mind.So a 100k mile vogue if looked after before should be no more of a risk than a 40k mile one thats hard a sore time?
Any test i can do whilst viewing to make sure all is well?

Post #83758 25th Sep 2011 5:23pm
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bozmandb9



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baba wrote:
bozmandb9 wrote:
I think a 100k Vogue is absolutely no problem. To be honest I think mileage is really pretty irrelevant on these cars. My previous S/C had 40k more miles than my current one, but if you had to judge them on condition you'd place them the other way round (not that there's anything wrong with my current one, it's just that the previous one wore the miles really well).

The only real difference is that you pay a lot less for the higher mileage car, so it'll depreciate at a slightly lower rate, and you get more for your money.

I don't have experience of gearboxes on the TD6, but I'd say on the petrol, if it's had an oil change it should be fine. Front diff recall, just need to check that it's had the recall work done, nothing to worry about if it has. One the facelift it's not relevant/ doesn't apply.

So go for it! Thumbs Up


So the facelifts had the diff problem sorted from the factory?Handy to know.
Yes i wont get one thats showed obvious signs of towing/hard life.
And il change all oils etc for piece of mind.So a 100k mile vogue if looked after before should be no more of a risk than a 40k mile one thats hard a sore time?
Any test i can do whilst viewing to make sure all is well?


Give us a clue on budget, engine preference etc?

Generally raise and lower suspension (doors must be closed), should go up and down pretty quickly with no errors. Check all electrical gadgets, extended test drive if possible, try moving from standard to low ratio (on a very quiet road or in a car park). Usual checks under the bonnet for fluid levels /condition, look for oil leaks, leave to idle then check temp.

In an ideal world you would put it up on a ramp and check underneath for corrosion, which it'll probably have, but should all be superficial/ surface corrosion. If none present then it's a really good sign that it's had an enthusiast owners who's treated and waxoyled it! Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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Gazellio @ Prestige Cars



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Generally raise and lower suspension (doors must be closed), should go up and down pretty quickly with no errors. Check all electrical gadgets, extended test drive if possible, try moving from standard to low ratio (on a very quiet road or in a car park). Usual checks under the bonnet for fluid levels /condition, look for oil leaks, leave to idle then check temp.

In an ideal world you would put it up on a ramp and check underneath for corrosion, which it'll probably have, but should all be superficial/ surface corrosion. If none present then it's a really good sign that it's had an enthusiast owners who's treated and waxoyled it!


Excellent advice Thumbs Up

Post #83762 25th Sep 2011 5:59pm
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bozmandb9



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Gazellio wrote:
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Generally raise and lower suspension (doors must be closed), should go up and down pretty quickly with no errors. Check all electrical gadgets, extended test drive if possible, try moving from standard to low ratio (on a very quiet road or in a car park). Usual checks under the bonnet for fluid levels /condition, look for oil leaks, leave to idle then check temp.

In an ideal world you would put it up on a ramp and check underneath for corrosion, which it'll probably have, but should all be superficial/ surface corrosion. If none present then it's a really good sign that it's had an enthusiast owners who's treated and waxoyled it!


Excellent advice Thumbs Up


I just wish I followed my own advice! Embarassed Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

Post #83770 25th Sep 2011 6:27pm
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ric355



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Gazellio wrote:
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Generally raise and lower suspension (doors must be closed), should go up and down pretty quickly with no errors. Check all electrical gadgets, extended test drive if possible, try moving from standard to low ratio (on a very quiet road or in a car park). Usual checks under the bonnet for fluid levels /condition, look for oil leaks, leave to idle then check temp.

In an ideal world you would put it up on a ramp and check underneath for corrosion, which it'll probably have, but should all be superficial/ surface corrosion. If none present then it's a really good sign that it's had an enthusiast owners who's treated and waxoyled it!


Excellent advice Thumbs Up


It is good advice, however a note on testing the suspension: It should go up and down quickly but when testing it you can easily deplete the air reservoir meaning it has to rely on the compressor only. As a result it will appear to be initially responsive then will go very slow. Just need to be aware of that. If you open the tailgate and lift the spare wheel cover you can check to see how long the compressor runs for.

It's also fairly easy to get underneath if you put it in full height mode and (don't have a beer belly!). Leave a door open while you're under there.

Post #83775 25th Sep 2011 6:54pm
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mzplcg



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United Kingdom 2014 Range Rover Vogue SE SDV8 Corris Grey

I really don't get the hang ups that people seem to have with mileage. It's largely irrelevant nowadays especially on diesels. Problems on FFR are well documented. Check for these and you're on the way to a good car.

But, by far the most important thing about a used car is how well it's been looked after. E.G. Service history, condition and the life it's had.

My last FFRR was an 07 TDV8 HSE with less than 57k on it when I bought it. One owner. Very shiny and full main-dealer service history. A good car, right? WRONG !!! It had been an estate manager's car. Those 57k miles had all be done across fields so it was knackered underneath. Loads of suspension knocks, ragging out back tyres, rotten exhausts and 2 repairs to fuel lines. In 11 months of ownership it had (under warranty) 1 alternator, 1 radiator, 1 rear diff, 1 battery, 3 wheel bearings, 1 shock absorber, numerous fuel lines, 1 fuel injector, numerous suspension bushes and a starter motor.

Move forward and my new car is exactly the same age (within 3 days) and done 20k more miles. BUT.....it was a company director's car, based in London and never been off tarmac. Full main dealer history, plenty of receipts including ones for detailing services. A vastly superior car and one I shall keep until at least 150k miles, probably longer if it stays reliable.

Past cars I've owned have included a Vauxhall Carlton 3.0 Estate, bought at 3 years old with 90k on the clock. Sold it some 6 years later with 416k on it. All I ever did was service it. Also had an Audi 100, 1989 vintage which SWMBO crashed and wrote off with 390k on the clock. That one never failed a single MOT and the failures beyond routine servicing were limited to a fuel pump and a set of shocks.

Mileage??? Doesn't mean Jack Schitt these days. It's just that psychological 100,000 number. If it was in KM and not miles would everyone get hung up at 160,000KM ? Of course not. Still, the good part is that the Prima Donnas of the world end up funding bargains for the rest of us Wink

Dom.

Post #83776 25th Sep 2011 6:54pm
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baba



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Milage has never put me off any other car before i buy on codition but some people on here have made out there prone to breaking after 100k.
Budget is fairly open anything from 15k-25K i guess if there was one a few grand more that was a stand out i could be tempted.
And its a diesel im after.
Sum great advice on here.

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