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Haylands



Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
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England 2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue
Split/Cracked lower tailgate...

Just went outside to have a look at possible rust following Gremlin500's post

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic66565.html

Mine doesn't have anything rusty but I did notice this....


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A large split where the lower tailgate actuator bolts to the tailgate, when you hit the close button this split opens another 10-15mm at least... Another "not fit for purpose" issue.

I had a look on eBay and there is a split one on there as well so this is obviously a common occurrence...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115745228206?ha...R97pgbDtYQ

I'll fix this myself, looks like it needs a large thick spreader plate fixing over it, I think some body glue and rivets will strengthen it enough to manage without welding as the alloy here is now workhardened and I think will fracture if welded....

So open the lower tailgate and check for rust, AND splits....

And, yes, I know it needs cleaning, it's been too cold to do a proper detailing since I bought it...!!! Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
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Gremlin500



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Yes, thats one of the two I replaced with painted ones, got genuine LR galvanised bolts and an expensive can of Corris Grey, 3 light coats. Looks like somebody was totally heavy-handed there! “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?
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Gremlin500



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That little rose-joint needs sorting too, those have zero protection and rust horribly. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” -where’s the fun in that?
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Haylands



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The split is not due to someone overtightening it, it flexis every time it's used and mine has split the alloy...

I'll sort the bolts and other rust when I do it... Thumbs Up Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
Post #661497 10th Apr 2023 12:46pm
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TJH1985



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Mine’s looking ok, but I’m wondering if it’s worth a large washer to help spread the load?

I’d be interested in seeing some pictures when you dissemble it, I presume the back of its quite a large plate.


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Edit: Found it as LR034445 Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
Previously George a 2007 MY07 Java Black VSE 3.6 TDV8
Previously a 04 MY04 Defender 90 Sad
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Haylands



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Doesn't look like there is any plate behind it, lean in and press the close button and see how much it flexes...

I would say a large square stainless repair washer would help... Thumbs Up Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
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TJH1985



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Yup, just had a play in the slinging rain at the end of a dog walk and I think I can see a little bit of a flex couldn’t make my mind up if it was flexing or I was thinking about it that much I’m seeing things!

Either way I think I’ll have that bolt out and fit a larger washer to spread the load. The bolts look like the could be long enough to accommodate one behind the standard washer.



Good spot sir Thumbs Up thanks! Sold - Bell a 2015 MY16 Loire Blue Autobiography 4.4 SDV8
Previously George a 2007 MY07 Java Black VSE 3.6 TDV8
Previously a 04 MY04 Defender 90 Sad
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Haylands



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I've done this as a temp repair, stainless washers and a replacement stainless flange head bolt... When it gets warmer I'll play some more...!!

The lower tailgate didn't always open properly, maybe 80% of the time, now it works just as it should all the time.

It had a new lower tailgate mechanism a short while ago under JLR warranty, I guess the fitter didn't notice a 2" split in the bodywork, or couldn't be bothered... Rolling Eyes

Working well now though.... Thumbs Up


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 Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-
Post #661584 11th Apr 2023 10:48am
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sass



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Just fixed mine this weekend.

There was an emerging crack on both sides of the washer which could be clearly felt by running a finger over it. You can also see a fine line at 10 o'clock if you look close enough on the other image.



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