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Edfors



Member Since: 26 Oct 2012
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Sweden 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Alaska White
Starter motor replacement L322 TDV8

The starter on our 2008 TDV8 gave up and just had the 'click'. So I ordered a new starter, part no LR032541. There is a surcharge, so it may be worth sending the old one back.

Difficulty of job, 2 of 5. Time including tea breaks around 3 hours first time.

Tools required. 8 and 10 mm 1/4 sockets with ratchet. 13 mm sockets with 3/8 or 1/2 ratchet and a 17 mm combination spanner. 22 mm for wheel nuts, jack to raising the vechile and support for the raised vehicle.

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First, check battery is ok. I did this with jump leads and a known good battery. Starter would still not go.

Loosen but don't remove wheel nuts on front right wheel. Then raise and support vehicle, you will need to get access from below at the right hand side.

Remove FR hand wheel, UK drivers side.

Remove battery negative cable from battery, just bend and put cable aside so it cannot get back and touch the battery connector.

Next remove the engine under shield, just 6 small 10 mm screws.

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Next is a heat shield in the rear side of FR wheelarch. Two nuts from the wheel side and two screws from below.

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Now you can see the starter with another heat shield on top of it.

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Another three 10 mm screws to remove.

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Wiggle out the heatshield and you see this.

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At the front end of starter you find two plastic caps. Remove the large, can be prised out with a small flat screwdriver. And just pull of the small one which has a cable attached.

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With caps off, you can now remove the cable to the solenoid, 8 mm socket.

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Use the 17 mm spanner to remove large nut and loosen cable. (NB! Battery cable must be disconnected before touching these cables with a tool!)

Loosen two big screws in the back end of the starter and wiggle it all out. It goes out through the wheelarch, but takes some twisting.

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New and old starter.

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When you get this far, it's fairly easy to reverse the procedures. In with the new and here I have connected a couple of breather hoses to it as well. Fasten the two rear big bolts, these should be tight.

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Reconnect the connectors and put back the caps. I wire brushed the cable connectors first. And pay attention to the location tab to get this into the right position before tightening.

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Reinstall heat shield.

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Reinstall next heatshield.

Reinstall undertray, wheel and last the battery negative cable. Some small spark may occur when you do this.

Started at first attempt! Thumbs Up Supporter and maintainer of EDF - Mrs Edfors' shopping cart.

Post #328690 19th May 2015 8:29pm
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northernmonkeyjones



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Nice job👍👍

One for the wiki Stan! There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Post #328692 19th May 2015 8:34pm
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nice job Patrik, wiki'fied.. Thumbs Up ... - .- -.




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Post #328693 19th May 2015 8:52pm
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RRD



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Belgium 2012 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Santorini Black

Hi guys,

bumping an old thread here!

The starter motor on my 4.4 TDv8 went dead and it seems to be the same starter motor as used on the 3.6 TDv8.
Is the procedure of replacement the same too? Or can I expect differences? '17 Range Rover 5.0 Supercharged AB (Sold)
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Post #506591 27th Feb 2019 2:43pm
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Shaun



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England 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I've not changed one on a 3.6, but have on a 4.4. Was told that there is less room and I would have to disconnect the anti roll bar. Managed to do it without disconnecting, but very tight.
A post mortem revealed burnt solenoid contacts. I did measure the voltage at the solenoid when trying to start and only had 9.5V. I believe the cable to the solenoid is in 4 pieces, 2 X 4.0mm & 2 X 2.5mm. I either had a bad connection somewhere or Land rover got their sums wrong when designing the start system!! Anyway, now replaced with a larger cable straight through and no more starting problems. Very Happy















 2004 TD6 - Gone
2011 4.4 TDV8

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Thanks for the 4.4 info Shaun.
Did the cable come out in 1 piece? or 4 separate bits?
Please can you add any further details of the new cable you fitted.
I presume you replaced it in one continuous lead with no joints?

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Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Shaun



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England 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

The cable I replaced was the smaller one from the start relay in the fuse box to the solenoid, too much of a volt drop on it. Spliced a new one in the fuse box near the relay and found a convenient run down to the starter. 2004 TD6 - Gone
2011 4.4 TDV8

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Tight777



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Zermatt Silver

Just had to replace mine.
Just to add I couldn't get the starter out through the side to the wheel arch, mine came out through the bottom chassis rails.

Post #525980 24th Aug 2019 6:23am
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dibber83



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Just done this on mine following this guide. Quite straight forward, only simple hand tools required plus a lot of patience trying to manoeuvre the motor through the chassis. Engine started instantly afterwards, which made me I realise I have had an issue for some time - sometimes when starting the car previously it would take a while to crank, sometimes it wouldn’t start without turning the ignition off and on, I initially thought it was delayed start waiting for glow plugs due to the cold weather. My dad borrowed the car a couple of weeks ago and said he struggled to start the car but I put that down to him being old and unfamiliar with the car Laughing

Anyway all good now hopefully. It took about 4 hours including twice having to go for more tools - a range of extensions and different length sockets of various sizes are needed to be able get to each nut. 2012 4.4TDV8 AB
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Post #544730 21st Feb 2020 7:50pm
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Bill



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Just curious....

Does the start stop function Censored the start motor/shorten life, or shouldn’t I worry? Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Having had a starter motor in pieces and seeing first hand how black and pitted the solenoid contacts get in normal non stop/start use they get, I can only presume that they get burned a bit every time they operate.
I would search out Stan’s post to disable it personally.
Mike.

 G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Post #544776 22nd Feb 2020 11:13am
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Bill



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I tend to switch it off as I start the car, not happy messing with the car as not technically competent.


Interestingly in a BMW I rented in scotland , the start engine button is surrounded by a switch off start stop button so you don’t forget to switch off the function !

To many stops and starts in that comment. Rolling with laughter Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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V8 Bob



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Ipanema Sand

Took my old starter to bits out of curiosity and it had the same pitting on the solenoid terminals. The live feed being the main issue. 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

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mpirie



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Scotland 2013 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Luxor

There's a whole other thread on replacing the starters on 4.4TDV8's with loads of pictures of the burnt terminals.

Mike

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dibber83



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Quote:
There's a whole other thread on replacing the starters on 4.4TDV8's with loads of pictures of the burnt terminals.

Mike


Do you have a link for this? Trying to find as much info on changing these as possible. I’m Getting a slight smell of hot plastic on drives of half an hour so. In Shauns posts there is a heat shield on the starter which mine didn’t have. Can’t see it listed on parts sites either. Was this removed at some point? Or not fitted until a certain date? Or maybe my starter has been done before and the shield was not put back! Not sure if one of the cables or the breather is getting warm, or if there is just a bit of oil residue burning off (fingers crossed). 2012 4.4TDV8 AB
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2003 TD6 Vogue
2010 Alpina D3 BT
2005 Audi A4 2.0TDi SLine
1973 Series IIa
2001 BMW 320
1996 Audi A4 1.6

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