I’m happy with my L322 but was wasting time on auto trader the other day and noticed that most L405 prices have come down to a slightly more sensible level.

I know it’s probably about how it’s used but what are peoples overall opinion of the P400e? Low mileage ones can be had for under £50k now it seems.

On paper it looks like an intriguing proposition. I don’t do too many miles and I imagine I would be more likely to use it on short journeys than I do the TDV8 with its full EV mode option.

For example what mpg would I get on say a 150 mile mostly motorway trip in hybrid mode with a sensible right foot? Reliability better or worse than the standard cars? What’s the range in EV mode - 25 miles?! 2009 pre-facelift 3.6 TDV8.

Regarding range - if it’s of any help / comparison.

I have just spent a day in a new L460 P440e on a LR experience day. I asked the instructor whats the realistic range - his response was 30 miles, and that LR thought that was adequate as the average journey was under 30 miles. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Is that 30 miles of range for the p440e, which would be horrendously inefficient, or the p400, which would be surprisingly good?

My Panamera with a 14.3 kWh battery does between 30-37 miles on electric power, it’s more ‘economical’ than a friends 530e, so I’d be surprised if the P400 could do more than 20-25 miles, depending on how fast you go.

But we have a few owners on here who will be able to tell you. MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
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Realistically, it's more like 20 miles range for the P400e...

My other question is what’s it like to drive in EV mode?

‘Adequate’ power for the general city driving that most people will do in that mode?

Sure it’s nice to drive a FF in near silence. 2009 pre-facelift 3.6 TDV8.

The power is relatively adequate but bear in mind that as soon as you floor it, the combustion engine will kick in. If you drive like grandpa you will remain fully electric and the quietness is awesome! I have adapted my city driving and it has become quite pleasant and serene. And I only fill the tank when getting out from the town for a longer trip... It really comes down to where you live and what you do with the car. In the city it makes sense.

Thanks. What’s your overall ownership experience of it been like? 2009 pre-facelift 3.6 TDV8.

I did take a P400e on a long test drive 5 years ago.

The electric only range lasted 13 miles.

Then it went petrol only and oh dear. I was test driving around Croydon/Caterham area which is quite hilly. It was the first time in decades that I had driven a car that struggled with hills! It just seemed so underpowered.

I went V8 S/C in the end.

I can imagine a 2L struggling in that situation but I guess on journeys more than 10 miles they are meant to be driven in hybrid mode from the get go.

It seems people either like or dislike them, very few in the middle.

If and when I decide I need a Euro 6 car I plan on trying one, my journeys are either short or quite long! 2009 pre-facelift 3.6 TDV8.

I wouldn't say that a 400HP/640Nm & 0-60 mph in 6.4 sec (137 mph max speed) car is underpowered... Ours doesn't feel that way and we've travelled all over Europe, summer, winter, hills, mountain roads, etc. There's always a reserve from the 105kW electric motor to help when accelerating, even if the battery is empty. The only problem, if you want, is the way it behaves while cornering at speed, but that's a SUV problem, not a PHEV one...

What mpg are you getting in the longer trips you do? 2009 pre-facelift 3.6 TDV8.

23-24 mpg on normal roads, 21 on highways.

adara wrote:

I wouldn't say that a 400HP/640Nm & 0-60 mph in 6.4 sec (137 mph max speed) car is underpowered... Ours doesn't feel that way and we've travelled all over Europe, summer, winter, hills, mountain roads, etc. There's always a reserve from the 105kW electric motor to help when accelerating, even if the battery is empty. The only problem, if you want, is the way it behaves while cornering at speed, but that's a SUV problem, not a PHEV one...

adara wrote:

23-24 mpg on normal roads, 21 on highways.

Vogue wrote:

adara wrote:

I wouldn't say that a 400HP/640Nm & 0-60 mph in 6.4 sec (137 mph max speed) car is underpowered... Ours doesn't feel that way and we've travelled all over Europe, summer, winter, hills, mountain roads, etc. There's always a reserve from the 105kW electric motor to help when accelerating, even if the battery is empty. The only problem, if you want, is the way it behaves while cornering at speed, but that's a SUV problem, not a PHEV one...

I’m trying to get my head round this - to get the 400bhp and the 6.4 0-60, does this need both battery and petrol motors to achieve this ?