Toss up between a more expensive newer 4.4 and a less expensive 3.0 both lovely cars. Will see mixed use but not huge miles per annum. 4.4 is a lower tax bracket due to the age.

Obvious question apart from is the 4.4 more expensive to run, is the 4.4 a more lovely machine to live with.

The 4.4 is far less likely to snap it's crank!

It also doesn't need timing belt changes, as it doesn't have one (the 3.0 SDV6 does)!

The 4.4 is just superlative, with effortless power delivery, makes overtaking a doddle. I loved my 2011 TDV8 4.4TDV8!

At the moment, I have a 3.0 SDV6 Disco 4 (as I need 7 seats), and I can report that it is a HUGE improvement over the old 2.7 TDV6. It's got plenty of punch, but still 70 or so horses shy of the TDV8, and you can tell!

I live in dread every time I turn the key of the 3.0 D4, waiting for the possibility of a huge mechanical crunch and the car joining the great many you see on Ebay and AutoTrader, up for peanuts with a lunched engine!

I'd go for the 4.4 if I had the choice.

Jon 1992 RR Classic 3.9 efi Vogue
2014 Disco 4 HSE
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Both my fatties now gone...
Previous: 2011 L322 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE /// 2002 L322 4.4 V8 HSE /// 2009 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 XS /// 2004 Defender 90 TD5 /// 1993 110 V8 Snatch Landrover /// 2005 Discovery 3 2.7 TDV6 SE (Aus) /// 1990 110 Isuzu 3.9 County (Aus) /// 1976 Series III Trayback (Aus)

I’m just going to leave this here :-

https://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/albums/u...M71816.pdf

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10106102-9340.pdf

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic148893....OveiCalsqz

And for what it’s worth we have had direct experience in our family of Crank failure in a V6 diesel as have several friends - the costs and inconvenience are catastrophic and in some cases have led to the vehicle being scrapped due to repair costs. The joke is the “Ford” engine is now being fitted to the Ranger - and guess what it’s all over social media - they are still getting crank shaft failures ! 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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Is the crank failure still an issue in a 2017 car? I thought they'd largely sorted it by then

According to my main agent - they solved it with the replacement straight six D300/D350 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Major failure aside I was more interested in knowing what the 4.4 was like to use as a daily driver for varying journey lengths and types compared to the V6

V8 every time. It’s a hell of a power plant; great acceleration, bucket loads of torque, smooth quiet, unflustered and makes a wonderful noise. FFRRs are also meant to be V8s (well in my world they are….)

Tomgc61 wrote:

Major failure aside I was more interested in knowing what the 4.4 was like to use as a daily driver for varying journey lengths and types compared to the V6

That seems fairly categorical! The dealers are all saying the V6 is all you need and the V8 is great if you have a caravan which I don't. I seem to remember reading that the 4.4 does not need to be overly thirsty if you're careful and I love the idea that the engine is low revving and under stressed which suits the RR ethos.

Dealers will say that - they have cars to shift. If you stick to the speed limits and don’t stamp your foot up to 35mpg is achievable with the V8 Diesel - the trouble is it’s difficult not too

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get the V8, they wont be around for much longer in a newish car so get one while you can. I love mine and will be sad when I move to a straight six D300/D350 in a short while. First time FFRR owner

I have a 3.0 V6 D4 and a 4.4 TDV8 L322.
The 4.4 is better on fuel and will do well in to the 30’s on a run.
It’s so under stressed, it’s only doing 1,500 revs at motorway speed.
The crank issue is a problem on the 3.0 V6 but probably only affects a fairly low percentage of engines.
(He says whilst touching wood as my D4 has now done over 100k)
The 4.4 is a great engine and would be my choice, it’s a shame they never fitted it to the D4. 2012 TDV8 4.4 Westminster Santorini black
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2002 Defender TD5

My local dealer was so insistent that I only needed the V6 that, in the end, I had to go to another dealer to order a new V8!
That was nearly 7 years ago and with 153,000 + miles on it I haven’t regretted it for a minute 👍

I was similarly undecided as there's a logic on paper for the 3 litre but when it came to it there was only one choice.

The higher tax frustrates but when you've come through the ranks and compare the mpg to previous incarnations, I find it okay to live with.

I like driving the wife's 3.0 L494 but it confirms to me every time that I made the right choice.

The 4.4 is just a wonderful smooth engine that never fails to bring smiles and its longevity in the range speaks volumes.

Tomgc61 wrote:

Major failure aside I was more interested in knowing what the 4.4 was like to use as a daily driver for varying journey lengths and types compared to the V6