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Bingo_123



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Quick question about tyres

Hi guys,

Quick one regarding pirelli scorpions.
Is it ok to run scorpions Verde on back and scorpion zero at the front.
Same size but obviously the pattern is a bit different between scorpion zero and Verde.

Is it a problem MOT wise.
Is it a problem in running of the car.

Please advise.

Thanks

Post #669535 21st Jul 2023 4:35pm
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garyRR



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No problem at all.

You can have different tyres on a vehicle, it's not an MOT fail so long as they're not damaged or worn.

Best advice however is to always have a matching pair on an axle (ie both tyres on either the front or the rear match each other and were new at the same time and have covered the same number of miles).

Lease companies however change only one tyre at a time, so there are many lease vehicles out there, probably also including Range Rovers, with 3 or 4 different tyres on the vehicle.

On rear wheel drive vehicles, it's also quite common to have a different set with a different pattern on the driven wheels vs the front wheels used for grip. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Post #669539 21st Jul 2023 5:18pm
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Bingo_123



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Thanks Gary
It will be matching pair on the axle. Never done that so thought of asking.

Post #669540 21st Jul 2023 5:22pm
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Alistair



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On any performance car I'd really care.

I'm a tyre geek so I can't even do it on a FFRR, but you'll be fine - they are broadly the same. Just don't mix extremes like winter & summer tyres.

Ultimately they will behave differently - one set would give up grip before the others and then the vehicle behaves in unpredictable ways rather than the balanced way it was designed.

In a FFRR in almost all conditions, you're nowhere near the limit of the tyre.

All perfectly legal though Thumbs Up

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JayGee



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MOT pass standards for tyres are not very good. Tyre age should be taken into account as the compound hardens and looses grip with excessive age. Wet braking ability drops dramatically past 4mm of tread depth not the legal 1.6mm. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #669546 21st Jul 2023 6:13pm
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Bill



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Alistair wrote:


I'm a tyre geek :


You may be interested to know the EU were mulling the idea of making cars retain the same tyres/make as the ones fitted on first delivery.

I don’t know how far they got with it. Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...

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Alistair



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It would have to be, at a minimum, manufacturer approved tyres, otherwise no-one could swap to winter tyres.....

I could kind of see it as most of the 'premium' OE brands are European whereas most of the 'ditch finders' are Chinese.

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Cam-Tech-Craig



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I understand on high end performance cars, tyre tech is important but surely an AO tyre on the family A3 can't be massively different to an NO or MO marked tyre can it?

Not as important as pressures, tread depth & temps surely?

Post #669565 21st Jul 2023 10:58pm
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It’s not a great problem, but it’s an effing pet hate of mine - mixed tyres - I’d just buy a complete new set and sell off the take offs on eBay. Why drive a car of that weight and value on mixed tyres. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

Post #669568 21st Jul 2023 11:36pm
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Bingo_123



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Thanks everyone for the comments, it was just an idea so wanted to be sure if there are any I'll effects.
It was only about pirelli scorpion Verde at the rear axle and scorpion zero at front axle, so not the extreme case of winter tyres on 1 axle and all season/summer on another.

Post #669570 22nd Jul 2023 8:04am
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rvbush



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Quote:
You may be interested to know the EU were mulling the idea of making cars retain the same tyres/make as the ones fitted on first delivery.

I don’t know how far they got with it


Hopefully not very far, surely anti-competitive practice. Drives:
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JayGee



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In many parts of the EU ( more a country by country thing) there are stricter rules on what tyres you can fit. AFAIK in France you have to stick to the OE size so no 255/55 R20 tyres on L322's for instance.There has been much talk of 'homogolation' and how certain tyres are co developed between tyre and car manufacturer to perform optimaly and this 'may' be the case with JLR and Pirrelli. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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SamThomas



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garyRR wrote:

Lease companies however change only one tyre at a time, so there are many lease vehicles out there, probably also including Range Rovers, with 3 or 4 different tyres on the vehicle.


Motobility/Kwikfit are noted for this.

Mrs Thomas insists on matching tyres all round & has had to quote Tyre Companies Websites (including, guess who - Kwikfit) and the vehicle manufactures websites.
However, Kwikfit think they know better which is why I'm banned from the two nearest Kwikfits ! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green

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JayGee



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Do they put a cheapest 'ditchfinder' on or replace with the same make and model? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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V8Russ



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I find my Pirelli tyres very noisy. Not so bad on smooth Tarmac.

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