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ergobyte



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France 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Java Black
turbos down...

Well I guess I'm running out of luck with my 2012 4.4 TDV8 Vogue. At 170 000Km it seems my turbo(s?) are leaking oil.
and my indy recommended a change, though (he said) he had only rarely seen them fail (he remembers 3) and break the engine.
An engine replacement is 22K€ !
the 2 new turbos from JLR are 7000€ !
I found 2 renewed ones at this adress for 1000£ :

Turbo Diesel London Limited
Company Registration Number: 11311380
Office Address:
7C Staines Road
Wraysbury TW19 5BY
Telephone number: 07840 443 138
e@mail: contact@turbodiesel.cc

DO you know these guys ? have any of you had experience with them ? what would you recommend ?
awaiting you input
Cheers "it needs some intelligence to undestand you may not have enough"

Post #654846 27th Jan 2023 7:27am
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wayneg



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Australia 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

Seems like they have plenty of good reviews on google, the only concern if you are not in the UK is the 21-day core exchange https://www.google.com/search?client=firef...n+Limited# 2007 TDV8 VSE
2003 TD6 gone.
2002 P38a gone
1999 P38a gone
1997 p38a gone
1993 VSE gone
1992 VSE gone
1966 Series 2a with V8 conversion gone

Post #654847 27th Jan 2023 7:42am
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JayGee



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If both turbo's have failed it indicates oil starvation at some point which would make me worry about the rest of the engine. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #654849 27th Jan 2023 8:13am
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V8 Bob



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Ipanema Sand

If you are replacing the turbos get them to replace the turbo oil feed pipes at the same time they can get blocked up limiting or stopping oil feed to the turbos causing premature wear.

While stripped down seriously consider getting the second turbo oil drain mod done. 2012 tdv8 Westminster arrived Jan 19 gone Dec 23

200 TDi discovery bobtail gone
RR classic v8 bobtail gone
300 tdi Discovery 3 dr gone

Post #654851 27th Jan 2023 9:35am
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JayGee



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It would be standard procedure during a turbo replacement to make sure all oil and water feed and drain lines are clear. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #654852 27th Jan 2023 9:39am
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UK Marine



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Let’s hope it’s not like this….

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Post #654854 27th Jan 2023 9:43am
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cass



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You might want to do a bit more investigating first.
Where is it/are they leaking from? how badly? any smoke or other running issues? is it getting worse?
When I bought mine there was an invoice with it that had a note on it stating it needed the turbo drain mod doing and also a new turbo due to leaking oil. This was at 30oddK miles and had scared the previous owner into P/Exing it.
It did need the turbo drain mod doing but now 90K miles later the turbo still has the same "leak"
One mans leak is another mans dirty mark.
I'm not suggesting ignoring it but it might be worth pausing before throwing big money at it - it's not always doom and gloom, you might be lucky

Post #654870 27th Jan 2023 1:07pm
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JayGee



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@cass - wise words. Thumbs Up 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #654871 27th Jan 2023 1:14pm
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ergobyte



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Thank you all for those wise words. it cheered me up a little.

I'll make a picture of the leaks and post it.
My indy told me that there was no rush, but that I should consider doing it (and it's maybe not both that are leaking, but once the engine is out, the best course of action is to change all that is otherwise innaccessible (tensionners, pumps, etc.)
I'll keep asking your advice, you can count on it... Thumbs Up "it needs some intelligence to undestand you may not have enough"

Post #654896 27th Jan 2023 4:38pm
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JayGee



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Is the engine coming out for other reasons? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #654899 27th Jan 2023 5:01pm
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here are the pics :
this is the front view with a yellow arrow pointing where ther is oil residue that got the attention of my indy.
the red arrow points to the hose he dismounted and there was oil residue in it (enough to wet a finger...)

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here under is a closer look at the leak and there is oil residue making the tube (arrow) wet

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as I'm looking around there is also some oil residue (but not much) on the rear right hose (see here under)

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I have no power problem, no exhaust fumes, and the EGR was changed 6 months ago... "it needs some intelligence to undestand you may not have enough"

Post #654901 27th Jan 2023 5:30pm
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Normal to have oil residue in any turbo charged car's intake. Whey is the engine coming out? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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I'm still negociating the work to be done and the turbo prices (refurb or new) ... I'm thinking no earlier than mid february.

I'm concerned about the traces of oil he found in the hose he took out though, is that normal ?

the taking out of the engine is >10h work and I'll change a lot of stuff while its accessible. "it needs some intelligence to undestand you may not have enough"

Post #654905 27th Jan 2023 6:09pm
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JayGee



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So let me get this clear - you are taking the engine out and changing the turbo's due to a bit of oil in the intake pipes? 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

Post #654906 27th Jan 2023 6:18pm
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cass



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you've still not said why the engine needs to come out?
Is it running OK?

Post #654908 27th Jan 2023 6:19pm
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