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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Looks like it's time to get a soap spray around the front right airbag & pipework, that DTC extended text is 'too many transitions / events' and can be set where an airbag is continually needing air to reach target height - i.e. leaking. The left rear height will increase as the car is essentially pivoting on the LF & RR due to the lack of air in the right front and the additional weight of the engine.
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17th Jan 2023 7:27am |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
Phoenix, WOW. Thanks a lot for the logical response. Esp. ruling out Foxwell as this removed a variable of uncertainty for sure. Much appreciation.
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17th Jan 2023 4:09pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Assuming you don't have a two-post hoist, the easiest way is to jack it up and take the wheel off, get a spray bottle and fill it with some high-foam soap & water, give the airbag a good soaking and leave for a few minutes to let the bubbles 'develop'. Big bubbles = big leak, small bubbles = small leak
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17th Jan 2023 6:07pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
2 point lift and detached garage upgrade in future but for now yes, jackstands. Thx again for caring & the pics. That helps. I will report back once this source hopefully id'ed and corrected so others can benefit. |
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17th Jan 2023 6:22pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Just a couple of additional points - you don't need or want the vehicle running, it's not great having it trying to self-level when the wheel is off!
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17th Jan 2023 6:34pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
Safety 1st without a doubt!! Again, appreciate you caring!! One of the reasons I am in conundrum state on this as I continue to get educated on the air system is it has been in garage and me with it quite a bit on correcting other issues since I picked up this baby this fall at a signficant discount. Have retrofitted rearview camera internals, id'ed and corrected rear PDC sensor wiring break, rebuilt tranny valve body and replaced solenoids, spark plug change, throttle body cleaning, install of key security emulator to bypass steering column lock issue, rebuilding front air suspension valve body, etc.
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17th Jan 2023 6:48pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Firstly, it's not easy to hear air leaks unless it's a big tear, the rubber airbag does a good job of damping the sound!
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17th Jan 2023 7:46pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
Update. Following raising vehicle & putting on stands in front I liberally sprayed down Right Front (RF) air bag with soap & water. Including the fitting and yellow supply line to it. I could not visually find or hear any leaks. Was in there with good lighting & mirrors. IE., up close & personal and couldn't see or hear squat. It is I found an Arnott AS-2516 remanufactured strut and is not original. Vehicle has around 135k miles. Would you at this point replace the struts with OEM new first and then I guess if that does not work then replace front valve block assy. Or vice versa or other tests? Struggling to just throw $ at it. Ideas welcome. |
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21st Jan 2023 5:40pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Right, well if there's no leaks, then it must be the control side - can you have a look at the output voltage from the front right height sensor? a fast meter or ideally a 'scope would be best, it's not the absolute voltage but the fluctuation that's important. Also check the supply voltage and ground are within spec. and stable. |
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21st Jan 2023 6:54pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
Thx for the ongoing support. OK, I used the Foxwell to pull Live Data.
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21st Jan 2023 7:45pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
Don't worry about crosslink operation, that's only valid in certain terrain response modes. Back to your original DTC - too many transitions/events, if there is no air leak, then a height sensor issue on that corner needs investigating. Can you unbolt from the suspension arm and check:-
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21st Jan 2023 8:15pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
All right loving the journey togther!
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21st Jan 2023 10:02pm |
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Phoenix Member Since: 16 May 2022 Location: Gone Posts: 1631 |
I'd say the FR height sensor is defective - it's reading effectively standard height when at offroad height, this would fit with the DTC as the valve is trying to raise to a height that can't be measured, hence the 'too many events'. Regardless of the actual height, the other three corners will share the (physical) load and pull up, to some extent, the low corner - FR in your case. Unfortunately you can't swap the sensors side-to-side or front to back to confirm, unless there is something odd going on with the suspension arms or bushes, then the voltage discrepancy at offroad height would indicate that either the sensor is not tracking height changes due to a mechanical defect or the output voltage is incorrect for the measured height.
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21st Jan 2023 10:20pm |
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ukengr93 Member Since: 17 Jan 2023 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10 |
Well, that is indeed the cheapest potential solution and am in agreement with it as the best place to start. So, I will get that ordered, try that & report back findings. It is a pleasure having you as my coach in this matter! |
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21st Jan 2023 10:25pm |
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