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Phoenix



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Have now! Aluminium is most likely the same as copper grease, metal particles in suspension - I think it'd end up the same personally, the carrier would melt and leave the metal to bind.

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Weegie



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Scotland 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

It was my thought too. Despite the excessive cost, I’ll go for the silicone in your link. Big Cry Laughing John
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Phoenix



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You could always sell the rest in 'finger dabs' onto cling film....

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Weegie



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Scotland 2008 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

That could take me back to a previous existence. Cool John
2008 Stornoway Grey 3.6 Tdv8 Vogue
2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
GAP iiD BT
2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

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Phoenix



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I assume that's why you're no longer in Glasgae? Wink

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Weegie



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Yes. Long time since. Smile John
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2005 TD6 Java Black Vogue - Written off!!
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2003 Discovery TD5 Auto, Nanocom Evolution - gone to a new home!
MasseyFerguson 152 - No electronics!! - Sold

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Ramblin Man



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Phoenix wrote:
Because the lubricant that is the 'carrier' for the copper won't withstand even moderate braking temperatures and separates from the copper, leaving a thick metal paste, which causes the slides to bind.

Most brake slide pins are lubricated with silicone based lubricant that has a high melting point.

The days of slathering every braking component in copperslip firmly belong in the last century - the technology used is very different now, most brake pads or pad slides have specific coatings or overlays to avoid the need for any lubricants, which tend to collect brake dust and turn into a binding paste anyway.


I’ve used Proslip on the Front Brembo’s; I had brake squeal and thought a good clean out and some “proper” lubricant on the rights parts would fix it.

https://proslip.com/product/grease-for-brake-calipers/

It turns out that the squeal was simply down to the crappy cheap pads that came on the car.

I’ve bought some Borg & Beck pads which will get fitted as soon as it stops raining ! I’ll probably use the Proslip system again when I put the new pads in but to be honest I’m not sure it really made much of a difference. TDV8 4.4 2012

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I wouldn't use 'proslip' on front brakes as the operating temp is very low for braking. The modern replacement for copperslip on the back of pads is ceramic grease (Ceratec) which claims to have no melting point. Also I'm not sure Borg & Beck are quality pads as AFAIK the original (and well respected ) company no longer exists but the name was bought and reused. I researched pads when I did mine and went with Delpi in the end. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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kevinp



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I've used 'Proslip' on many cars in the last couple of years and had good results. I would recommend it myself.

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

@kevinp and Ramblin man yes it's fine. Just seems operating temp is way too low but it's obviously a specified product. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Phoenix



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Why are you putting anything on the back of brake pads? Likewise on the sliding parts where the shims have a coating designed to promote movement - fair enough on the very few that are bare castings.
Have a look at any new cars brakes - there is nothing applied to the pads. As many people find out, brake noise is down to cheaper friction materials, not the pad backing / caliper interface.

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JayGee



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@Phoenix - that's the truth alright. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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