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chex



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JLR vs BMW V8

I know the jag engine version is seen as more reliable but in my market they are still 30k $ used vs 17k for the bmw version.

Is the bmw one so bad in comparison? Anyone had a good experience with the bmw version? I've had one before but the previous owners mechanic was useless and I spent the whole time chasing engine issues. The day it sold was the day I finally had everything sorted, except for an oil leak from the engine that I couldn't place and a heat soak problem caused by a facelift and aftermarket air filter.

Just wondering if that's typical or if I had an especially bad one. 2004 L322 V8


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Post #505532 18th Feb 2019 5:09am
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p38arover



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I reckon my 4.4 M62 BMW leaks more oil than any Rover-engined LR that I've owned (I've had eight! plus about the same number of other British leakers).

At least my Yamaha doesn't leak. Wink Ron B. VK2OTC
2003 L322 V8 Auto
2007 Yamaha XJR1300
Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA

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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

If you look at the high miler thread, you will see that the majority of those at the top are petrol V8s, and most are bmw. Yes the gaskets need looking after, but as most have lpg, it shows just how tough the bmw units are.

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chex



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Please link me to the thread 2004 L322 V8

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gettingold



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Here you go

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic47597.html

Steve.

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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

As you can see, 60% of the top 10 milers are BMW 4.4V8s! Thumbs Up

Post #505550 18th Feb 2019 10:52am
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dingg1



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2007 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.2 SC V8 Stornoway Grey

but thats because they've been about longer

Post #505551 18th Feb 2019 10:54am
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MarkNL



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Netherlands 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

Hi,

This is the mileage Top 25.
From early 2002 to late 2006 the only 2 engine options were the BMW TD6 and the BMW 4.4 petrol M62 V8.

There are only 2 diesels from this era in the list, versus 10 petrol engines.
Classic wisdom would be the opposite...

BM265,869 - 2004 - 4.4 V8 - Vogue - Mr101
226,000 - 2011 - 4.4 TDV8 - Vogue SE - Mark A
211,000 - 2007 - 3.6 TDV8 - Vogue - Duracell777
208,000 - 2002 - 4.4 V8 - Vogue - Mark NL (335k km)
206,000 - 2003 - 4.4 V8 LPG Vogue- JohnnyDangerous
202,000 - 2006 - 4.4 V8 - gavinn
196,506 - 2004 - 4.4 - AB LE - Nicksaab
190,495 - 2004 - 4.4 V8 - HSE - RaveRover (307k km, Melb. Aus.)
189,600 - 2004 - 4.4 V8 - Autobiography - Dolphinboy
186,000 - 2004 - TD6 - Vogue - Fraynizzle
182,500 - 2008 - TDV8 - Vogue - Black - Nelly
181,808 - 2010 - 5.0 S/C - Autobiography - rkaad
181,970 - 2002 - 4.4 V8 - Vogue - johnboyairey
179,800 - 2007 - TDV8 - Vogue SE - berkshirelad
179,000 - 2007 - TDV8 - gone/worth mention - Dolph34 (289k km)
177,500 - 2013 - 4.4 SDV8 - Vogue - Anonymous
176,000 - 2004 - TD6 - Vogue - Flashman
172,000 - 2007 - TDV8 povo pack - rar110 (278k km)
171,356 - 2006 - TDV8 - Vogue - Turbo failed. Car retired 02/10/2018 - DMRR
170,000 - 2004 - 4.4 V8 LPG - Vogue - Knightrider
169,820 - 2008 - TDV8 - Vogue SE - alanm_3
165,700 - 2008 - TDV8 - Vogue SE - fanders
165,500 - 2004 - 4.4 LPG - Vogue - knightrider
163,940 - 2002 - TD6 -Richcl
156,450 - 2007 - TDV8 - Vogue SE - gone/wish id kept it - rangie47  Mark Offringa
Utrecht Netherlands


2007 L322 / 3.6 TDV8 / Vogue / Java black
2002 Mini Cooper / 1.6 116 hp / Red + white roof / the magic back-up Smile

Gone:
2002 L322 / 4.4 V8 / Vogue/ Adriatic blue
2000 Audi A6 / V8 4.2 / Brilliantschwarz
2003 L322 / TD6 HSE / Adriatic blue

Post #505553 18th Feb 2019 11:22am
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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

thinking this might be a Jag engine.

202,000 - 2006 - 4.4 V8 - gavinn

Post #505578 18th Feb 2019 2:53pm
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chex



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Surprised at the lack of TD6s.

I assume the lack of 4.4 JLRs have something to do with the introduction of the TDV8, I'd expect the NA petrol engine to last longer in general. 2004 L322 V8

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Dolphinboy



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Atacama Sand

I think that the Jag engine was only used from c.2005-2006 after ford bought LR from Bmw. In 2008, Ford sold to TATA. Hence the low numbers produced. The 3.6 diesel was a massive step up for the FFRR over the TD6 so was more popular.

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gavinn



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Hi

If it helps mine sure is a Jag Engine, trouble free unit , very well looked after, this is my cruiser up and down to Scotland, as it has its oil and filters changed every 6K (at one point that was every 2 months) maybe excessive i know but .....

Cheers

Neil

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wayneg



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Australia 2007 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Java Black

My td6 has done 150000 miles, there was one up for sale locally with 275000 miles supposedly running well. I see very few TD6`s for sale here in Oz, the ones that come up are generally more $ than high mileage TDV8`s. 2007 TDV8 VSE
2003 TD6 gone.
2002 P38a gone
1999 P38a gone
1997 p38a gone
1993 VSE gone
1992 VSE gone
1966 Series 2a with V8 conversion gone

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RangeRov



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Bringing this thread to life instead of creating a new one.

Here in the Nordic the face lifted Jag versions are almost twice expensive than BMW engine so I am wondering if it is worth the premium? (€7K vs €15K) I understand the cabin quality is higher and the seats are nicer.

Found a 2004 with 99.4K miles which had quite a lot of work done to it during the last years and the itch is back. What do you guys think? What else can pop up and needing change? Or should I wait for a 06+ with Jag engine and decent maintenance etc.

https://www.blocket.se/annons/dalarna/land.../100516915

Work done:
2018-12. Replacing the drive belt package
2019-04. Replace right air bellows for air suspension + all front link arms
2019-05. Service. Oil, Filter, Spark Plug, Air Filter, Replacement Thermostat Housing
2019-06. Replacement expansion vessel cooling water + various hoses
2019-08. Replace all fuel injectors + passenger compartment filter
2019-09. Replacing valve cover gasket, Renovating crankcase ventilation, Replacing anti-roll bar bushings, Replacing all rear parking sensors, Replacing air bellows west front
2019-11. Repair of instrument cluster (pixel error). 2-year warranty
2020-03. Replace oil separator crankcase ventilation
2020-12. Manufacture of new key
2021-01. Replacing cam chain tensioner
2021-04. Service oil + filter + oil distribution box + Diff, New coatings front
2021-09. Change oil dispenser + filter
2021-11. Replacement rear caliper + cover + brake oil
2022-02. Service with oil change + filter

Also the air pump for the air suspension must be replaced as well as the air bellows at the rear and brake discs at the rear should been done before the current owner.

Post #629572 24th Apr 2022 7:47am
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chex



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The jlr engine is one the most reliable engines in a range rover. The BMW is one of the worst.
I'd place it worse than the crank breaking diesels which are at least reliable until the day they break. 2004 L322 V8

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