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Ron Greevar



Member Since: 03 Dec 2019
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Galway Green

Tezza,
When I bought my MY2011 4.4 Vogue I found a pre-owned iCarsoft LR V2.0 on eBay and paid about £100 delivered (you can find them cheaper on eBay and on this forum). I can only take the seller's word for it but he had it for a Jag (The LR2 can do all JLR models) and then he sold the car.
I wanted something to check the OBD's and I have found the coverage of faults to be very good and it has reassured me when a Restricted Performance code came up - Water in Fuel Sensor.
I sought (free) advice from my indy specialist who put it down to damp weather rather than water in the fuel but said keep an eye on it, and it has only popped up again after torrential rain! Incidentally the RP does not actually Restrict Performance?
I have checked the battery output and charging and run regular code checks. I updated the software which was easy and free via the iCarsoft website and there is no extra charge when you change your Land Rover or Jag - I have used it on my wife's Freelander 2
I am still learning more about the LR V2's functions which include live data, DPF regen and service resets. It is NOT an iiD. It is clunky to use with no touch screen and a hard lead to the OBD port, but for me it is a toe into the diagnostic water which could lead to me going down the iiD route. In the meantime it is a reassuring addition to my in-car toolkit.
There are lots of videos on the iCarsoft on Youtube.
Ron Thumbs Up

Post #602808 4th Aug 2021 2:41pm
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tezza



Member Since: 22 Jul 2021
Location: Gloucestershire
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I went back and forth debating this one and in the end, after reading the iid docs and playing with the demo I almost convinced myself to go for the iid.

I'd already got a fair price from duckworths on a new one (with a bit of a negotiation which is nice to see still happens these days) when the opportunity for a used (but never used) one came up in my wanted ad which just sealed the deal.

Thanks to everyone for their input though Thumbs Up

Since I can get hold of the ancel from time to time, at some point when I have some free time I'll try to do a side by side comparison, which might help others decide in the future

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Furnitureman



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Location: Leicestershire
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 V8 Cairns Blue

Just one point to note if you change your vehicle for a new one there isnt a charge to transfer the gap tool over, you only pay to add more vins to the tool, I haven’t used any of the others so cannot comment on those but the iid has been invaluable for my previous D3 and now my Westie 2012 Range Rover Westminster 4.4 TDV8
2006 Discovery 3 HSE 260k miles and still going strong with a new owner

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Sandyt



Member Since: 07 Nov 2013
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Supercharged 4.2 SC V8 Buckingham Blue

I had a bit of a software meltdown in mine whilst in france with the 11d tool was able to ,with the help of Gap , reload the ccs and get back to normal so it is in the car all the time

Post #603151 7th Aug 2021 9:58pm
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knares



Member Since: 22 Jun 2017
Location: Perth WA
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Australia 2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

i bought a second hand hawkeye, big mistake RR 2005 4.4 petrol
Any spelling mistakes are the fault of spellchecker
Previous MG J2, CITROEN light 15 x 2 gone unfortunately
Present MERC 180e, RANGE ROVER L322, JAGUAR XJS, MERC 280SE, MG F, JAGUAR S-Type 6v 2003, jaguar s-type 8v 2004, Ford Cougar

Post #603204 8th Aug 2021 1:17pm
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tezza



Member Since: 22 Jul 2021
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

@knares... Why?

Post #603207 8th Aug 2021 3:13pm
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Kot



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Not one to be narrow minded, I looked at the GAP web site for information and although well supported for pre 2017 cars, not so good for my MY18. Maybe this will change in the next year or so.

****Functionality coverage for 2017 and up L405, L494 and L462 platforms is limited. Car Configuration File editing and ECU Flash are not supported at the current time but under development 2018 SE SDV8 4.4 Byron Blue

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knares



Member Since: 22 Jun 2017
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Australia 2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

tezza wrote:
@knares... Why?

the cost of changing it to my model was almost the same as buying a new one
the car it was for was wrote off, so the hawkeye was wrote off too RR 2005 4.4 petrol
Any spelling mistakes are the fault of spellchecker
Previous MG J2, CITROEN light 15 x 2 gone unfortunately
Present MERC 180e, RANGE ROVER L322, JAGUAR XJS, MERC 280SE, MG F, JAGUAR S-Type 6v 2003, jaguar s-type 8v 2004, Ford Cougar

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Dean_C



Member Since: 30 Apr 2021
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Anyone got icarsoft 3.0 lr ?

I’m looking into diagnostics tools at the moment & come across this, and the gap iid

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F15KEY



Member Since: 21 Jul 2021
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England 2012 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Santorini Black

I had a bad experience with iCarsoft!

Ordered one from LJM Car Diagnostics.

Was poorly advised that it had been sent out and that it was Royal Mails fault for not receiving it.

Had to wait 20 days before they would refund me.

Straight out and purchased a GAP tool, no messing.

Post #605204 30th Aug 2021 5:53pm
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tezza



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

@F15KEY It seems like your problem was with RM/LJM rather than iCarsoft. I know its annoying but fairly sure that's standard policy with some RM shipping methods so the seller wouldn't have been able to make a claim for those 20 days. It sucks but not really a reason not to go iCarsoft.

@Dean_C No doubt the iCarsoft is the cheaper option at the beginning and im sure it would have served most of my needs, as discussed here, the resale values for IID are pretty decent which, when coupled with the fact it's not hardwire, the seemingly excellent support (no first hand experience with that yet) and quality documentation, are the reasons I decided to go with the IID.

If it's an option, keep an eye out on here for used ones coming up, there was one for sale a few days ago (if a little pricey imo). I managed to bag a used (but never used) IID from a member here that was just a few months old for £350 with no owner transfer fees to pay. Given that I'll get a good chunk of that back if/when I no longer need it, I have no regrets and im safe in the knowledge it will do everything I need.

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Dean_C



Member Since: 30 Apr 2021
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Thanks for your info.

I’m going to get the gap tool Thumbs Up

Post #605265 31st Aug 2021 5:19pm
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knares



Member Since: 22 Jun 2017
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Australia 2005 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

I have a icarsoft, it told me a heap of things were wrong with the car.
I deleted the faults but they came back.
It told me that one senser was open circuit, so I replaced the sensor
Once I replaced the sensor, it was unable to delete the faults.
I had perversely bought a IIDTOOL which I find harder to use, but it delated the faults, no problem at all and none of the have come back RR 2005 4.4 petrol
Any spelling mistakes are the fault of spellchecker
Previous MG J2, CITROEN light 15 x 2 gone unfortunately
Present MERC 180e, RANGE ROVER L322, JAGUAR XJS, MERC 280SE, MG F, JAGUAR S-Type 6v 2003, jaguar s-type 8v 2004, Ford Cougar

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RRover



Member Since: 17 May 2021
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2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Causeway Grey

I just a few days ago used a mobile engineer to see if he could do anything about clearing the three regular alerts I've been getting in my 2012 Westy for three years now (BLIMEY!!!) in which two LR '''''specialists''''' Rolling with laughter outfits and my local reputable car ''engineer'' Laughing have tried to '''diagnose''' and clear at some total cost of about £250.00 to me, and which they never cleared and simply blamed everything other than the moon - and this guy the other day cleared them and they haven't come back, using his LAUNCH PRO 129X diagnostics device...
The codes were:
Emergency Brake Assist not available...
HDC not available...
Stability Control not available...
What he found was that the steering wheel geometry (is that what you call it) was out by about 18-degrees, which he easily re-calibrated before my very eyes, and suggested that some '''engineer''' three or more years ago must have adjusted some wheel dynamic/s and not told the on-board system what had been done...
And so now I know why we in the UK didn't invent the Saturn 5 space rocket...
Shocked

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Pysta



Member Since: 05 Sep 2021
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Slovakia 2011 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 Fuji White

I'm using JLR's SDD, and although it can be a pita to use, you get everything done on your L322 same as at your dealer

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