I have a 2006 3.6 Vogue and my steering wheel has stopped lowering/going up when turning the ignition on and off.

When I put the key in, the wheel will jolt slightly as if it's about to lower then, do nothing. Most of the time, it does retract when I remove the key but, not every time and sometimes, it goes down to its lowest setting instead of up.

The steering wheel still adjusts electronically when using the lever however, first pull and it does nothing. Second pull and it then adjusts. I used to have to just pull it the once to adjust. So, I presume there is a position sensor somewhere which has failed?

Does anyone know where it is and the part number and point me to a guide to the replacement? 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Hi.
I'm not saying this is the case with yours, but your symptoms are identical to what I had a good while back (in addition to some other stuff). Have a read here:
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic47667.html
The dealer recommended a new steering column, so I'm glad I did some experimenting first - it wouldn't have solved a thing.

Cheers!
Henrik

I'm not sure UK versions had a FBH fitted.

There's certainly no option or remote for it in my car and the timed climate just seems to run the fans and nothing else. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Mine has a FBH, I haven't tried it though I have the remote. 2012 L322 TDV8 Vogue SE: Buckingham Blue
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Ditto as Bluebottle says - My 2006 has the FBH, but never used it.

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Also, if you do not possess a 'reader tool' get it checked out for any codes before taking action. May be lucky and have dodgy contacts or something - especially as it will move at times as designed. Fingers crossed

As above. I disabled mine via my GAP but it's the steering column can still be used via the column control. 2005 FFRR SC Java Black with Overfinch Exhaust (UK)
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I have the IID tool, spent a load of money on it and to be honest, I don't think they're much use when it comes to diagnosing problems.

Old Range Rovers have a) very complex electronics and, problems can manifest a symptom opposed to the root cause b) they grow errors over time, as the resistance of copper increases and things get old so, you get lots of false negatives

So, I've never found the iID tool of any use if I'm honest. You always have to identify manually anyway.

Is there a position sensor? Given my steering column works, I'm inclined to say it's either the little microcontroller on the unit that controls the steering column or, a position sensor (if the car has one). 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

Just found this, may give you some clues / pointers, hope this helps, I know just how bloody infuriating these cars can be.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/ste...tures.3120

As for an IID tool not being useful I have to disagree, used mine dozens of times on both fatties and would be lost without it, you have to know how to interpret readings and specific fault codes but that is where this forum and the internet help, it just takes some time on line...

I think the drivers seat memory ECU stores the info for the position of the column I don't think there are any position sensors I think it does it with smoke and mirrors (ie, I don't know how) There could be faults listed for it, it could need resetting in the CCF and you could also try a battery disconnection to reset it... All cheap and worth a try...  Pete
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Think the same as in the above post, all I can add now is that a huge number of operations / commands are routed through the BCM ( Or BCU as some call it ) so reading any codes could be advantageous, prior to pulling bits out or spending money.

I have an Icarsoft reader specific to JLR, whilst it is a good tool, it is not as good as the aforementioned device.

I think you're missing the point of my remark.

The IID tool I find is not great for diagnosing. Because the electrics in these cars are so complex and there are numerous controllers, there are also umpteen fault codes. When the car chucks up a fault code or fault codes, these tend to be symptoms opposed to the root cause of an issue, requiring further analysis / ruling things out one by one anyway. That's why I've not foind it great for diagnosis. You might think it's useful because it gives a load of codes but, in my experience, you have to go and rule things out regardless, which is what you'd do if you didn't have the tool.

I work on boats and you'd be really surprised at what happens to circuit boards, terminals and cabling. The salty environment highly accelerates degradation in all electricals and it's not uncommon for the resistance of a copper wire to have increased enough that it begins causing electrical 'gremlins' within 5 years. The IID tool will always show a shed load of faults for this reason, as things degrade.

Anyway, if there's no position sensor, it's likely 1 of 2 things. I'll get the multimeter on and testing. My suspicion is that it's the seat ECU, if this is where the wheel is controlled from. 2015 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 SDV8

garyRR wrote:

I'm not sure UK versions had a FBH fitted.

There's certainly no option or remote for it in my car and the timed climate just seems to run the fans and nothing else.

Gary...

Once you have the codes you check the W/M and it gives you a workthrough of said fault, yes some are spurious but they will give you a pointer on where to start a lot of the time...

The issue we all face with the fatties is that most parts are sourced from the BMW parts bin, the 322 was virtually finished under their ownership but they never got round to clearing all the faults from the system, subsequently they do come from the factory with a host of faults...

I drowned fatty off roader twice to well over the BCM, it got soaked.... once properly dried out it was fine and is still going strong today, haven't personally seen a problem yet that was from degraded wiring, a few poorly routed wires which work harden and break though......

I can't understand who thought canbus etc was a good idea on boats though, that's why my Hatteras was old school with Detroits .....  Pete
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