Hello,

Considering a purchase of new or nearly new RR.
Comparing new prices lists, even adding all the extras on a standard Vogue to bring up to SE spec it still seems a few grand cheaper.


Does anyone know what extra you're getting for this money ? (apart from 20" wheels, cooled seats, auto dimming mirrors, adaptive cruise control, side load nets, homelink garage door opener which can be added to the vogue and still less money)

Is the new 4.4 V8 diesel much more worth going for than the 3.6 ?

any comments welcomed !

Thanks

Hi

The Vogue SE's leather is much much nicer - perforated semi-analine. Front heated and cooled seats, homelink etc. Not massively more over the Vogue. Would try and get Adaptive Xenons as these really are great. Does the SE come with Adaptive Cruise Control as standard - if so, no brainer. Nicer standar wheels on SE too.

4.4 is a giant leap from the 3.6 and would aim for one of these if budget allows. A 4.4 Vogue will be more preferable in years to come than a 3.6 VSE so bare this in mind.

Thanks, yes the SE has adaptive cruise as standard, but as said you can add that to the vogue & many more bits & still seems quite a bit cheaper ! Vogue does have standard cruise control though.

I like the sound of the fuel economy & performance on the new 4.4.

I'd also be interested if anyone has any good or bad points for reliabiltiy / issues on the 3.6 or 4.4 ??

I haven't owned a RR for about 20 years, but am looking forward to driving one again.

cheers,
R

Rolo wrote:

Thanks, yes the SE has adaptive cruise as standard, but as said you can add that to the vogue & many more bits & still seems quite a bit cheaper ! Vogue does have standard cruise control though.

I like the sound of the fuel economy & performance on the new 4.4.

I'd also be interested if anyone has any good or bad points for reliabiltiy / issues on the 3.6 or 4.4 ??

I haven't owned a RR for about 20 years, but am looking forward to driving one again.

cheers,
R

The Vogue SE is nicer, no doubt, but I had a Vogue before that and it did everything I needed too.
Most of the extras just make it feel a bit more special.

However, I'd not go for the VSE if there are messy young ones about.
Normal leather is easy to clean. Getting chocolate out of perforated seats is a whole different story.

With regards to engine, the 4.4 is obviously better.
But having said that the 3.6 is still very, very good. And it'll have already lost a chunk of depreciation. This last point makes it a better buy in my eyes as I'm not keen on losing a fortune so quickly as you do on a new Range Rover. Particularly when a new model is only a couple of years away. If that doesn't bother you then it's got to be a 4.4 VSE or autobiography.

Plus as the 4.4 has been out for a little while now they'll be getting the hang of the niggles most new Land Rover products come with.

If you want the SE spec & toys then definitely go the SE and do not spec up a Vogue as you will retain a premium on the SE but not the extra spent on the Vogue

PS: If you can afford to buy new then get the Vogue SE or you may regret it.

Rolo

I'm with Johnson1 on this - go for the SE.
4.4 engine far better than old 3.6, but be aware the battery problems.

Thanks so much guys for all your input & ideas - it's really helpful.

Thanks for the heads up on the battery issue - I'll take a look at that thread.

I am trying to get to grips with the depreciation on these, but as my other half says you only live once, so why worry and get what you want !
mind you easy for her to say, it's me paying for it !

Hi again.
OK, now I'm worried.

Just read the whole post on the battery / non starting problems.

Should I really be bracing myself for problems when spending so much hard earned cash ?
Am I really fooling myself thinking "mine will be alright" ?

I'm going to be so off if a month down the line I get a problem like this, especially if it's such a common problem.

I hope that senior LR staff do read these posts, cause here's a good reason for me to change my mind & not buy one after all.

I hate dillemas

** - On browsing what's for sale I have wondered why you can get quite a few 2 to 6 month old SE's with very few miles on the clock. Upon enquiring, they don't seem to be ex-demos & being so pessimistic I wonder if these cars are ones that have been returned by unhappy owners ? Why else would someone shell out 70 - 80K for a car they only use a few times and sell on ? I can understand someone changing vehicles every 1, 2 or 3 years, but only a few months seems odd.

As has been said, the leather is much nicer but I don't think the premium of a new SE is worth it.

Rolo wrote:

** - On browsing what's for sale I have wondered why you can get quite a few 2 to 6 month old SE's with very few miles on the clock. Upon enquiring, they don't seem to be ex-demos & being so pessimistic I wonder if these cars are ones that have been returned by unhappy owners ? Why else would someone shell out 70 - 80K for a car they only use a few times and sell on ? I can understand someone changing vehicles every 1, 2 or 3 years, but only a few months seems odd.

Maybe you could track the chassis number at a dealer, it should show any warranty work that's been done on it.
My dealer did this for me and it showed every time the vehicle came into a LR garage from new.

And these cars could be a good buy if they have been sorted out correctly.
1st owners are great for splashing the cash, getting all the frustration and sorting out all the niggles. You then get a cheaper car that actually works.

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Maybe you could track the chassis number at a dealer, it should show any warranty work that's been done on it.
My dealer did this for me and it showed every time the vehicle came into a LR garage from new.

Thanks, I didn't think of that !

Fox wrote:

Maybe you could track the chassis number at a dealer, it should show any warranty work that's been done on it.
My dealer did this for me and it showed every time the vehicle came into a LR garage from new.

I asked my dealer about warranty history on mine before buying it and they quoted me "data protection blah blah blah" and wouldn't give me any details mind you it wasn't supplied by them

I have now been in to register the car on their system in case of any recalls etc and they were then only too pleased to tell me how little warranty work had been carried out previously

The 4.4 was never an option for me plus I have a huge dislike of the dial/knob to change gear but I am struggling to find a fault with the 3.6 over my first two weeks of ownership so maybe you could drive both but as for the trim level SE all the way for me - As Gary says if you spec up a Vogue with SE extras you will never recover the outlay, the SE will always command a higher resale value.

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Ajay(UK) wrote:

I asked my dealer about warranty history on mine before buying it and they quoted me "data protection blah blah blah" and wouldn't give me any details mind you it wasn't supplied by them

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Ajay(UK) wrote:

I asked my dealer about warranty history on mine before buying it and they quoted me "data protection blah blah blah" and wouldn't give me any details mind you it wasn't supplied by them