I love the sure footedness even on 22” wheels with Pirelli Scorpio Verde. Also like the heated steering wheel.

But that is where my patience is starting to run out.

1. The stupid frozen door lock design is just daft and causes issues in actually being able to use the car. I thought I’d be prepared to preheat the car for my wife as those stupid doors won’t close until the car is heated up. Great”ish. Job done, but ahem after locking up a warm car and making a coffee whilst handing the keys to my wife to use it to go to school, she can’t open it up. The drivers door is frozen shut again. What the . So she has to climb in across the passenger seat to get going and not be late for school.

2. The heated front windscreen seems to operate one day just fine but then today decides not to do anything. But then kicked in at the very last bit when the blower has done the majority of the work. Grrr, also took much longer than it can be.

3. All of a sudden my heated seat wasn’t warming up. Yesterday it was just fine. I bet tomorrow it will be fine again.

I’m going to have to order a set of winter wheels and tyres for her BMW M2. We decided not to do that as when it is bad she can just take my car. But you can’t rely on the off-road king to simply operate its doors with a mild frost. Damn even my daughters 33 year old car still works.

Yup today I’m hating the car.

Is it the locks or the doors that are frozen?

The drivers door on mine was frozen on the first very cold day a while back despite running the FBH for 15mins and it was worse than I've had on any other car, none of which I could pre-heat. After reading about it on here, I ordered some Gummy Flege and gave it a quick wipe over the door/boot rubbers and it's been fine since, even when I haven't used the FBH.

I've used my wife's Golf R the last couple of mornings as I only needed to drive a couple of miles to take the little one to Nursery and her car lives in the garage. I really missed the heated steering wheel and the heated seats take an age to warm up, I might as well not have bothered, the RR is warm by the end of the road. No heated windscreen issues in the RR either.

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No frozen door, as mentioned it would open but then not close. Then once warmed up it would close. But when switched off and locked then it wouldn’t open anymore.

My wife had to climb in from the passenger side, and by the time she was at school all was fine.

This is what I used for the rubbers, £10 well spent.

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Yup I’ve got the same. That is not the issue though The issue is inside the doors with the mechanism, not the rubbers around it. 👍

Yup had the same problem!!
Door card off and sprayed some Silicone lube in the cable Outers like i do on my MTB gear cables and anything else i could see that looked suspect.
Tonight will be the real test temp is due to drop to -7 and i have only done the drivers door so far

I think the issue is the cables freezing so when you pull the handle the cable does not move so the door latch remains closed or eventually it does move but stays in the open position (This is what happened to me) and the door will not shut . the only way i could get the door to stay closed was to lock the door, then it would not open again from inside or outside the car.

I think the cables have stretched and when it is warmer i might look at replacing them!!  2012 Vogue 4.4 TDV8 - Current
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this has been talked about for many years here on the forum..

the door has two seals and are prone to retaining water which freezes.. solution is a rubber lubricant like gummi phledge.

the locks also freeze so a strip and adaque amounts of grease packed in helps...

these shouldn't be the kind of problems that a high end vehicle should have but unfortunately the FF does.. ... - .- -.




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Bl4ckD0g wrote:

Yup I’ve got the same. That is not the issue though The issue is inside the doors with the mechanism, not the rubbers around it. 👍

I think Stan said it right These are not the kind of problem a high end vehicle should have. But unfortunately they do.

Very frustrating and it’s like it sticks two finger up at me when you think you opened the door, warmed it up, finally managed to clock the door. Switches it off to have your coffee or tea before ready to go out; and bang it’s just frozen again.

Lol not even my bicycle cables do that 🤣

And it’s too cold to get my door cards off outside and my garage too messy to do it inside.

Yup I’m grumpy today.

More so than usual before anyone says anything 🤣

There’s a grommet on the rear of the front doors just by the door lock, I popeped that off occasionally and lobed a can of spray grease onto whatever I could hit.

If you’ve got one of those little cheap inspection cameras then you can poke that in to have a look round.... There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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I had the same problem yesterday. Car opened okay so set off to work with the gauge reading -13 ten miles to work and now the temp is -6 and I can't open the door to get out so I climbed over to the passenger side and that was the same so I ended up climbing out of the window and then using the close function on the remote to shut it again. Will be taking off the door card tomorrow and grease/silicone things, door seals already done. 2010 3.6TDV8 Stornoway Grey/ Black interior - gone
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1977 White - gone (should have kept)

OMFG You had it even worse. Absolutely ridiculous that these cars have this 'feature'. I wonder whether the Queen does the same.

It is just one “thing” that needs new grease time after time to work. 11 years is long time
30’ job if you have removed the door card before and do not plan to also grease the handle cables.

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Had- 2008 TDV8 Vogue SE in Java black
Had - 2007 S/C in Stornoway Grey

Constant problem where we are, as said many times, kettle with 70/30 boiling water sorts all these problems immediately, using product on the seals is a better long term alternative but with door not shutting kettle is the answer, everyday issue here at the moment