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DaleL322

Member Since: 04 Mar 2021
Location: Stamford
Posts: 176

2009 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Great work Pete 2010 MY Range Rover 3.6 TDV8 Vogue SE - Stornoway Grey with Semi-Aniline Ivory Leather and Piano Black Trim

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6th Jul 2021 9:10pm

dhallworth

Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3066

2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Baltic Blue

I enjoy jobs like that rather then just throwing new parts on Always looks great when you’ve done work like that and taken the time to do the calipers too. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

6th Jul 2021 9:11pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16280

2015 Range Rover SVAutobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Well done Pete

6th Jul 2021 10:37pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8178

2014 Range Rover Autobiography SDV8 Loire Blue

Thanks guys, Stan, they look original so are 10years and 85,000 miles old, so not too bad I recon.... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

7th Jul 2021 8:58am

stan
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i'm sure that now in your possession , this FF will be sorted good and proper.. ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
.

7th Jul 2021 10:14am

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8178

And one of the first jobs will be to remove it's ugly roof rails and bars, they work well but I really hate the look...

To facilitate this I had the last mod done to the new "Fatty boot protector"

Took a run down to a mate who has just given up his day job to make these....

Not specifically for Mondeos though... he makes roof crates for just about any vehicle...

The Mondeo doesn't have any roof rails or mounts so I used 8 M8 rivnuts to fix this rack on.

If you need a crate or rack for a classic fatty or anything else then he's your man...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/bobbedpete?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

I hope a plug on here is OK... Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

8th Jul 2021 10:11am

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8178

I put this on it's own thread but I'll park it here as well...

Went out for a walk an hour ago to find this in front of fatty....

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Nice walk around the village, the ducks are back on the pond... I digress... got back and dived underneath...

Looks like the rack to me....

Nearside looks very suspicious...

Off side not so much...

The oil in the reservoir is much cleaner than the slick and it's only dropped to min... doesn't look like enough oil has come out of the reservoir to make a slick that size...

I started it and the steering works fine lock to lock but then did start making a knocking noise on nearly full left lock...

Anyone else had similar, can't see it being anything else around there, the transmission cooler is bone dry all round and absolutly no evidence of any leaks looking down from under the bonnet...!!

Guess it's garage time...

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It never ceases to amase me how wrong I can be sometimes....

It looked like the steering rack, the oil looked like dirty steering oil, it was in the right place....

Anyway I started the engine, and it didn't bong with low engine oil so that seemed promising, Into reverse and the box dropped in fine... reversed back a bit and no more oil was coming out so heck, I'll drive it to my mates and get it on a ramp....

Took off the front and middle underbody protector, got the inspection light out and

Holy cow Batman.... One of the new high pressure fuel pumps is hanging off the side of the engine, stuck in it's acoustic cover was this... That dirt on it is from the cover...

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A snapped bolt... the pump is split or broken, it is difficult to say yet...

The oil was engine oil that comes out when you remove the pumps as they are running in oil...

I checked the oil level and it came up with this....

Rather weird it didn't bong to tell me it was low....!!

So, what has happened...??

The bolts are torx head 6mm, there was no thread lock on them, they aren't stretch bolts, no mention in the Workshop manual to replace them... they are tightened to 11nm, so not much....

Maybe the bolt came loose, snapped under the pressure of the pump moving, which damaged the pump as well...

Maybe the pump broke and took the bolt with it...

Not enough time today to strip it down so I will find out tomorrow....

Just hoping the remainder of the bolt comes out the block easily, it would be the hole that is directly behind the steering column...!!!

Time to make a big pile of bits on the floor....

New pump ordered, should be here tomorrow...

Wish me luck....

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Pumps removed...

One fitting spur snapped off and the pump piston rod snapped...

The remainder of the snapped bolt was at the bottom of the hole, the threads leading to it were fine so it looks like the bolt snapped somehow, can't think how though... The snapped bolt wound it's way out, the pump was then only supported one side so the pressure snapped the fitting spur which caused the piston rod to snap off, then the bolt backed out more letting the cam follower out of the hole and dumping all the oil... That is total speculation though...

Offending hole is just right of the blocked hole...

Luckily close inspection of the cam lobe, by turning the engine over by hand, the can follower and the hole itself are all pristine with no wear marks, they look identical to the other pump.

Tried an easy out on the stud, drilling a hole through it's centre wasn't too bad but I think they should rename "easy out", "no way out" as they never seem to work for me...

So, out with this set of Helicoils...

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I bought some new, high tensile bolts and thread locked them in and that's where I got to today as only had a few hours to play....

Old pump refitted on the left, new one on the right...

Put it all back together tomorrow and see what happens....

Pete

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2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

4th Aug 2021 5:03pm

stan
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good job you know what you are doing...good luck mate. ... - .- -.

Y. O. L. O.
.

4th Aug 2021 5:39pm

dhallworth

Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3066

Bloody hell, Pete!!

That was a lucky escape but not so lucky on the snapped bolt.

Got everything crossed that it comes out of the block easily for you.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

4th Aug 2021 5:58pm

Baltic Blue

Member Since: 13 Aug 2015
Location: North Wales
Posts: 3763

2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

Good luck Pete,
I still can’t believe that we get no warning when the oil level gets low.
Obviously no one is going to be brave enough to confirm it, but surely it would eventually fall low enough to at least trigger a low oil pressure warning, even my 1959 A35 used to light up when it needed topping up, which in my car was very regularly.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

4th Aug 2021 6:19pm

dhallworth

Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3066

I guess when the engine is running and the oil is flowing there’s no way of knowing what the level is in the sump so the only way to monitor it would be oil pressure.

Although I guess there’s a known level of oil in the sump when it’s running.

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

4th Aug 2021 6:36pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8178

Thanks chaps, about another litre came out when taking the drive shaft out of the sump so it's pretty low now.... we were talking earlier about starting it in the morning before filling it up to see what happens... Don't think I've got the cajones to do that though...!!!!

David, bolt is out and sorted now... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

4th Aug 2021 8:09pm

Haylands

Member Since: 04 Mar 2014
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 8178

All back together, no leaks from anywhere and it runs 100% so looks like whatever caused it... faulty part, bolt or spanner work hasn't done any lasting damage...

£155 for the pump, £4 in bolts and some oil so not too sad... Pete

__________________________________________________
2014 L405 Autobiography SDV8 4.4 Loire Blue Ebony interior
2011 L322 Vogue SE 4.4 TDV8 Baltic Blue. Parchment over Navy Interior. Sold
2012 L322 Autobiography 5.0 Supercharged Ipanema Sand, Jet Interior. Sold
2002 L322 Vogue 4.4 V8 Epson Green, Ivory over Aspen Interior (Fatty Offroader) Sold
-Click for Project Fatty off roader-

5th Aug 2021 4:02pm

dhallworth

Member Since: 10 Oct 2011
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 3066

That’s good news, Pete. You must be relieved now!

Not a bad bill given it’s a Range Rover either

David. 2002 4.6 Vogue SE - Alveston Red with Lightstone Leather
2007 Range Rover Supercharged in Java Black with Ivory Leather
2012 Range Rover 5.0 SC Autobiography in Indus Silver with Jet/Ivory Interior
2012 Range Rover 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography in Baltic Blue with Sand Interior

5th Aug 2021 9:08pm

Cam-Tech-Craig

Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 16280

Pete, have a look at the settings in the CCF files sir... Most leave the factory and PDI with the low oil alert switched OFF!!!

6th Aug 2021 12:23am

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