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KurtVerbose



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Bye bye Diesel 'V' engines...

Both the V6 and V8 are being replaced by mild hybrid 3.0 straight six ingeniums.

D300 - 297 bhp
D350 - 345 bhp

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...ange-rover

Seems payload has gone up from 720 kg to 875 kg, so I can imagine the new engine is substantially lighter than the old V8 one.

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Andy S



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Inevitable but a shame. One of the joys of owning a FFRR is the noise a V8 makes...

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Red Merle



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I thought that this would be the last opportunity to own a new V8 diesel.

It’s interesting that the CO2 output of the 3.0 6 cylinder D350 is 1g higher than the 4.4 SDV8 was when I bought mine in 2017.

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GGDR



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Quote:
new unit puts out 516lb ft of torque

...is a significant drop from the SDV8

. Cheers, Greg
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ibb1



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It will be bad to lose the V8, the V6 is a good engine too, barring the potential crank issues with it, hope these new ones are good.

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Rob99



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GGDR wrote:
Quote:
new unit puts out 516lb ft of torque

...is a significant drop from the SDV8

.


It'll be interesting to see what the reduction in torque does to the maximum towing weight for the FFRR 2021 D350 Fifty Edition - Carpathian Grey
2017 4.4 SDV8 Autobiography (2021-2024) - Santorini Black
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Philip



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Won’t make any difference.

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GGDR



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until you try overtaking....
Surprised Cheers, Greg
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Philip



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It’s ~30 lb/ft less, hardly a big deal.

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Alistair



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Rob99 wrote:
GGDR wrote:
Quote:
new unit puts out 516lb ft of torque

...is a significant drop from the SDV8

.


It'll be interesting to see what the reduction in torque does to the maximum towing weight for the FFRR


Given that the old 2.5TDi's were also rated at 3500kg, I wouldn't worry too much.....

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GGDR



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Trommel wrote:
It’s ~30 lb/ft less, hardly a big deal.


ok actually i was mistaken was looking at the 700 figure but that's Nm

. Cheers, Greg
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My wee i4 is absolutely magical, I love the experience. I even love* how it sounds. I expect an i6 derv with mild hybrid will absolutely be the match for the dinosaur derv V8 in everyday driving. Thumbs Up

*love might be the wrong word. I respect how it sounds. It helps that it reminds me of my 1987ish Pug 309 GTi. And it also helps my P400e goes like stink. L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso

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dolph34



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End of an era , electric is not the future with the current technology regards batteries. Tesla are mundane in the looks department and given a cold snap the range is pathetic. It's like beta max all over again. I filled up today , drove 270 kilometres and still have a range of over 500 kilometres left , I don't need to plug it in anywhere and can fill up in under 5 mins to travel a further 800 odd kilometers without worry of finding a place to plug it in for a few hours . Horses for courses BUT having a go anywhere ,in any condition , full of electic toys , Range Rover that I dont need to worry about plugging it in anywhere in my travel plans seems the way forward. Electic is in its baby steps and without a major step forward in battery charging and distance is not an option currently ( sic ). I have driven a Tesla in ' mental ' mode or whatever it's called and its mightly impressive for about 10 seconds if your under 15 years old or come to the first corner. . I say this as a 30 odd year superbike rider who enjoys his speed but an electic/ hybrid range rover seems like a chocolate teapot unless you travel less than 10 miles a day and have a charging option after that 10 miles . No disrespect to anyone that has an hybrid FFRR, your money your choice but to be able to open the garage, drive 800 kilometres , fill up again at a plethora of garages and then drive back seems a far better option than planning your route around charging points and charging times. My daughter is at college over 300 kilometres away and I often have to drop everything to go and see her ( my choice,i appreciate but shes my daughter) and I would hate the thought of making that journey on a little engine once the electric had run out .Just my humble opinion and no offence meant to anyone. ( unless your a vegan liberal and then you would have found something offensive regardless Laughing )
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bigbo



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Very well said, this rush to electric cars is sadly misguided, batteries are not the way forward.
If the same amount of money / effort had been put into hydrogen we would be in a totally different position.

Hydrogen costs roughly the same as petrol and yet has no emissions other than H2O, has roughly the same range, the same fill times so no range concerns. Oh and Fuel cells are cheaper to produce than L-ion batteries and certainly better for the environment.
The government should have pushed retailers to stock hydrogen rather than E10 petrol.

All imho

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Ford Focus EcoBoost 1.5 2017
MG TF 2003

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Jaguar Mk2 3.8 - Company car
MG Midget 1974 - Concours

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dolph34



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