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barrieeld



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Does LPG'ing effect risiduals?

looking to maybe LPG my SC and wondered how the buyers market see a SC thats been LPG'd

Does it make it easier/harder to sell? Makes it more of less valuable?

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as long as the conversion is well done and been serviced appropriately I would imagine is would make it more sellable, given the cost of fuel FFRR TD6 HSE
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...but then you get your petrol heads that don't want this 'back to the future' stuff bolted on.. ... - .- -.




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as we can see there is an arguement for and against!! i have had problems selling my last 3 LPG vehicles, all with full paperwork and service history. it's only the people that know about them that are keen to buy. dealers just always seem a bit more cagey.

if you plan to keep the car for a few years and get your money out of it i would do it anyway. Current: TDV8 (3.6) RRS HSE



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Post #84880 1st Oct 2011 12:58pm
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barrieeld



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My cars the 35th anniversary model so want sure if it would be a good idea or not as it may put off a collector per say?

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I would suggest having it fitted so it's fully removable. i.e. not having the filler cap in the middle of the rear wing
Then any future owner / collector can remove the whole kit if they wish to do so Thumbs Up

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Not sure your car is terribly collectable anyway, certainly didn't seem to be according to what you got it for!

I'd say LPG certainly makes a car more saleable. It will polarise your buyers, certain S/C buyers wouldn't touch a converted car with a bargepole, myself, I would probably pay up to £1,500 more for a converted car, depending on quality of conversion, warranty etc, since it would save me the cost.

Assuming you want to keep the car for a while, I'd say if you plan to do 12-15k miles in it, it'll pay for itself!

To me though, the real beauty of the conversion is that it lets you enjoy the car so much more! The enjoyment of the 4.2 Supercharged, is always tempered by that nagging feeling is that for every glorious overtake, or bit of welly on the motorway, you take yourself rapidly towards another megabucks fill up. When you're only paying £50 per fill up, you can just enjoy the car so much more!

Only downside is the reduced range on LPG, but you can see that another way, when you want more range just use some petrol, you trade of some of the saving for convenience! Not a bad think to run on petrol sometimes anyway! Thumbs Up Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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I go the other way, I was looking for another RR to add to the fleet, I searched absolutely everywhere for a low mileage standard vehicle without gas - I even paid a premium for an unconverted vehicle. If it was doing very high miles then gas is maybe justifiable, but the cost gap between unleaded & gas has closed significantly over the last 10 years

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Its still not far off about 50-60% of the price when you look around and not just look at the normal places Smile

When i started with LPG i could get it for 29p/l at one place Very Happy

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Vogue wrote:
I go the other way, I was looking for another RR to add to the fleet, I searched absolutely everywhere for a low mileage standard vehicle without gas - I even paid a premium for an unconverted vehicle. If it was doing very high miles then gas is maybe justifiable, but the cost gap between unleaded & gas has closed significantly over the last 10 years


Exactly, as I said, it will polarise your buyers into those who want it, who will pay a premium, and those who won't touch it with a barge pole!

Don't know what you mean about price different though, I buy petrol at 133.9 ppl cheapest, and LPG at 69.9 ppl cheapest, how much greater did the differential used to be? As I said, it takes 12-15k miles for a conversion to pay for itself, is that very high miles? Range Rover-less at the moment - Pining!

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To be honest the seller who I bought the car from didn't know what the car was worth and only advertised is locally prior to eBay. I think the car has got to hold a reasonable good resale value considering it was lowest production range rover manufactured during the current chassis. That's just my tuppence tho.

I do about 20 miles a day. So don't really know if an LPG conv would be with it?


bozmandb9 wrote:
Not sure your car is terribly collectable anyway, certainly didn't seem to be according to what you got it for!

I'd say LPG certainly makes a car more saleable. It will polarise your buyers, certain S/C buyers wouldn't touch a converted car with a bargepole, myself, I would probably pay up to £1,500 more for a converted car, depending on quality of conversion, warranty etc, since it would save me the cost.

Assuming you want to keep the car for a while, I'd say if you plan to do 12-15k miles in it, it'll pay for itself!

To me though, the real beauty of the conversion is that it lets you enjoy the car so much more! The enjoyment of the 4.2 Supercharged, is always tempered by that nagging feeling is that for every glorious overtake, or bit of welly on the motorway, you take yourself rapidly towards another megabucks fill up. When you're only paying £50 per fill up, you can just enjoy the car so much more!

Only downside is the reduced range on LPG, but you can see that another way, when you want more range just use some petrol, you trade of some of the saving for convenience! Not a bad think to run on petrol sometimes anyway! Thumbs Up

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20miles a day is probably not worth it IMO unless you are 100% certain you'll keep it for 3years +

When i got my coupe done it was about 90p/l for shell optimax at the time and the difference was enough that i broke even after just 9 months amd i really abused that car at times as well on that engine so it never got better than 25mpg with its 45l tank.

The biggest advantage you supercharged people will get over the 4.4's is that with the legal allowance to decat you can gain a good increase in power if the LPG system can handle it, IIRC the best injectors when i did my coupe could push at most 75bhp per injector so for the v8 600bhp should cover it but means they can have the map able to add another dollop of power and allow the engine to breath more easily and sound so much better when booting Very Happy

but for 20mile trips i cant imagine you boot it much as it doesn't really get that warm Sad

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barrieeld



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kingpleb wrote:
20miles a day is probably not worth it IMO unless you are 100% certain you'll keep it for 3years +

When i got my coupe done it was about 90p/l for shell optimax at the time and the difference was enough that i broke even after just 9 months amd i really abused that car at times as well on that engine so it never got better than 25mpg with its 45l tank.

The biggest advantage you supercharged people will get over the 4.4's is that with the legal allowance to decat you can gain a good increase in power if the LPG system can handle it, IIRC the best injectors when i did my coupe could push at most 75bhp per injector so for the v8 600bhp should cover it but means they can have the map able to add another dollop of power and allow the engine to breath more easily and sound so much better when booting Very Happy

but for 20mile trips i cant imagine you boot it much as it doesn't really get that warm Sad



Bloody he'll 600bhp sounds excessive !!!! Anyone running that? Would def make up for the 11 mpg!!!!

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kingpleb



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im sure if you looked some nutter has pushed theirs to the limit lol

strangely ive noticed from nosing about that the UK spec supercharged's actually have the most official BHP and NM/lbft compared to EU and NA spec varients Smile

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