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Cuckoo Cuckoo, has it driven you batty yet ?? G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Last edited by Baltic Blue on 23rd Sep 2017 12:00pm. Edited 1 time in total

Update report.

I have read through hundreds of reports from owners of 4.4 tdv8s and logged the faults reported.

It is too early to take my findings as gospel, but I will continue to update it during the coming winter months and then decide if it is worth continuing.
My initial findings are :-

1) The original design of the 4 short rubber hoses on the inlet plenum chamber to manifolds is the number 1 Fault with 8 failures of 1 or more hose. This usually shows up as restricted performance, followed by DPF full warnings.
The good news is that the replacement hoses are much tougher and are a fairly easy job to replace. They cost approx £100 for the set of 4 with new jubilee clips.

2) their have been 3 reports of splits in the plastic manifolds which result in similar warnings.
Two have been in the plenum part where the seam has split, and one more worrying in the actual manifold which split very near the join to the rubber hose. One report quoted approx £500 for replacement of the plenum chamber and the 4 hoses.
No final fix has been reported for the manifold split, but this is a considerable bigger fault to fix and the replacement part is likely to be costly.

3) Two owners have reported failure of the TFT instrument panel due to overheating.
Both were fixed under warranty so no further details available.
I have read the Workshop Manual and it describes a separate fan unit mounted near the steering column which blows cold air through plastic ducting to both the TFT and the centre screen to prevent them overheating.
This must surely be the actual failure rather than the screens??

4) Thanks to Craig's posting detailing an oil leak from the turbo oil feed pipe at the centre back of the engine, several owners have fixed the problem using Viton O rings size, 9mm x 1.8mm. (available from eBay in packs of 10 ) very cheaply.

5) One gearbox is reported to have been changed, but given that this car is now still going strong with 220k miles on the clock, I for one will not worry about that too much, but I do intend to have it mega- flushed next year when my car reaches 75k.miles.

Please Please keep reporting any problems and fixes so that I can keep the log updated for everyone's benefit.

Cheers
Baltic Blue. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Great work BB!

Mine had it's starter motor replaced under warranty before I had it.

There was mention of CSOV valve - I think you posted on that one

Also the usual turbo drain mod - this one is not a failure though.

And the recall to do with the AGM battery.

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

Thanks gonna etc.

My CSOV was well and truly stuck and replaced with the modified unit under warranty, but suprising , no one else has reported the same failure.
I can't believe JLR designed a modified unit if so few have failed, but only time will tell.
I was told by the technician who fixed mine at the M D that he had changed a few and that early 4.4 L405's suffer the same problem ??

I haven't included the turbo drain mod because it is a well documented design failure rather than a fault causing a breakdown.

I only saw 1 mention of starter motor replacement and assume all batteries were upgraded to AGM under recall ?

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Hi Mike, fair enough on your classifications e.g. turbo drain and AGM.
What and where is a CSOV?
Greg Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

My Word doc had strange formatting when viewed on the tablet, but....

Nice one Mike.
there have been a few mentions of adaptive dynamic faults with the frayed cable under the front strut caps. mine went at around 70k. Very easy fix.

There is also mention of condensation in the rear light clusters and quite a few mentions of the tailgate end strips bubbling at the bottom. Also the rear tailgate rust issue again for me that was around 70k but clear age is the relevsnt measure here - 5 yrs..

 405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
93 RR Classic efi

Remember it's easier to get forgiveness than permission!

Gone in order:
4.4 TDV8 SE - gone to a good home
93 Classic hard dash Plymouth Blue
03 L322 Oslo Blue
2000 Disco TD5 ES Epsom Green
98 P38 Rioja Red
89 Classic Cairngorm Brown

Gonna...

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Adrian,
Mine was repaired before I bought it (50,000) miles,
It's on my list to add next month along with leaking rear shocks, again quite common, but not an MOT fail issue apparently?

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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October update:
I think I have got the measure of 4.4 tdV8 issues from reading hundreds of old posts, but:-

3 further issues worth keeping an eye on, both for owners and people looking to buy.

1) Starting problems have been,inked to an unusually high number of starter motors being replaced on 2011 onwards models, but strangely they nearly all occurred in early life, with very few reports in recent years???

2) A very common problem in the earlier years was “Adaptive Dynamic “ failure alarm, which is usually easily fixed by repairing the broken wire/s in the top of the strut. It is well documented and can either be fixed by buying the repair kit or by soldering a new piece of wire to the broken wire.

3) Owners should be on the lookout for engine oil leaking from the oil cooler/ heat exchanger unit into the V of the engine block and also, more seriously into the cooling system

I shall continue to log all reported faults over the coming winter months and update this post as necessary, but I think by then we will all be aware of the most common failures and I will close the topic.

Happy motoring and remember batteries take a hammering if you mainly do short runs during winter months.
Thanks to everyone for sending me Fault experiences.
Cheers
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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nice work Mike, interesting info..  ... - .- -.




Y. O. L. O.
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Mike
Sorry only just got round to seeing this post and reading it through. I have some more details for you
2012 Westminster
Purchased Feb 2016 with 48000 on clock 1 previous owner full range rover service history, no other reported faults!

oil cooler leak int the V at time of purchase, fixed under warranty straight away (replaced oil cooler) 48000 miles

Heated / cooling drivers seat faulty peltier cell replaced at 52000 miles

new front disks at 59000miles

Just had a fault with the coolant header tank (showing low coolant level when actually it is fine) Magnetic float inside of tank that actuates the reed switch in the sensor stuck! 68000 miles

Hope this helps
Dan 2006 RR sport HSE
Swapped for 2012 4.4td v8 Westminster Santori black with Ivory leather
BEEN SMILING EVER SINCE

Thanks Stan & Dan.

Just for interest,
I have used data from posts of 46 different owners, some of whom have reported several different failures.

Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
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Hi Mike, just a thought - are the idler pulleys on the watch list?
Greg Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

2011 (2012 model apparently) 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography.

Jan 2017: Idler pulley squeaking and replaced (49,000m)

April 2017: Oil cooler gasket leaking and replaced (50,000m)
: Fuel tank 'crimps' replaced (fuel gauge was reading all over the place) LTB00566v6

September 2017: Turbo drain mod: LTB 00168 (54,000)