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berkshirelad Member Since: 06 Apr 2016 Location: Newbury Posts: 265 |
...or because you abandoned it, your 2007 has put a curse on the new one... |
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26th Jan 2017 9:12am |
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Busa1400 Member Since: 05 Oct 2015 Location: Leeds Posts: 112 |
Funny you should say that, how many people feel bad about trading in a car ? I did, how random is that !
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26th Jan 2017 9:21am |
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stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 35331 |
the 2010-2012 FF's have this system,
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26th Jan 2017 9:34am |
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peejay Member Since: 20 Sep 2013 Location: London / Kent borders Posts: 143 |
I don't think that's what the OP is talking about Stan, he doesn't say he puts the EPB on but simply applies the footbrake then when you release it the car is held until you start to pull away, it wont roll back, my 2009MY and my VW Transporter are the same, hill start assist without using the handbrake (or EPB in the RR), seems strange it doesn't work the same in the later models?
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26th Jan 2017 9:54am |
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Busa1400 Member Since: 05 Oct 2015 Location: Leeds Posts: 112 |
I suppose the easy test would be same hill, put hand brake on, neutral and see if it holds. If it doesnt its and adjustment - if it does more work required 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE |
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26th Jan 2017 10:37am |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8239 |
Your 2007 didn't automatically put the brakes on, the gearbox would hold it, I think it will be the differences in gearboxes between the models, I've had auto's that don't roll back on hills and others that do... nothing clever going on I think it's just the difference in models... Pete
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26th Jan 2017 10:48am |
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TomCobbly Member Since: 29 Jun 2016 Location: Guildford Posts: 122 |
I think this is all to do with the super efficient 8 speed ZF gearbox TC. Apparently to save fuel when the car is stationary for a little while some whirlygig contraption decouples the torque converter so very little power drives through the gearbox.
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26th Jan 2017 1:14pm |
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ajac8 Member Since: 04 Oct 2011 Location: Shakespeares County Posts: 1655 |
Is the OP not referring to Hill Start Assist? Standard on 2010+? 405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
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26th Jan 2017 5:40pm |
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Haylands Member Since: 04 Mar 2014 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 8239 |
Don't think so, he is talking about the vehicle (2007) not rolling back on hills and it now transpires that his new one will because the TC is disengaged after a second...
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26th Jan 2017 8:37pm |
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rvbush Member Since: 08 Jan 2016 Location: Leamington Spa Posts: 541 |
I know this isn't the point of this thread, but why on earth does anyone need something like hill start assist?
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27th Jan 2017 9:49am |
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stan Site Moderator Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: a moderate moderated moderator moderating moderately in moderation Posts: 35331 |
i agree..a hill start in an auto is easy because of the inherent creep that is associated with these type of gearboxes.. |
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27th Jan 2017 10:03am |
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rvbush Member Since: 08 Jan 2016 Location: Leamington Spa Posts: 541 |
It's easy in a manual...................if you can drive. Bit like parallel parking, oh, wait a minute, no need to learn that either! Motorway driving, no problem, smart cruise takes of that..............texters mandate! Drives:
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27th Jan 2017 10:13am |
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PaulTyrer Member Since: 22 Jul 2013 Location: Devizes, Wiltshire Posts: 1254 |
In the same vein, why do you need 'park assist'! Same thing, if you can't park a car you shouldn't be driving!! What next? 'Toilet Assist'!!!! |
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27th Jan 2017 11:22am |
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rvbush Member Since: 08 Jan 2016 Location: Leamington Spa Posts: 541 |
I know we're veering off topic a bit here, but it's the same with all passive driver 'aids' like these. I have a pathological fear of them simple because the skill of driving will be dumbed down to the very lowest levels. The other worry is when someone used to driving a vehicle with all of these so called 'aids' then has to drive one that doesn't have them.
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27th Jan 2017 11:48am |
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