Hi Everybody!
It all started ( which maybe coincidental ) with me being low on fuel, but not long afterwards the car started to 'hunt' or judder when stationary. Recently I noticed that it is happening when travelling too. If it was a petrol engine I would say that it is mis-firing. If I start from cold it takes a few mins, presumably when the engine warms up a bit. It is not nice.
Could any of you lads give me a clue to the prob please?
Cheers.
PS I am NOT 'technical' ! Please be gentle with me! 'Knowledge Is Power'

My guess would be partially blocked fuel filter - perhaps with trying to drag the dregs of the fuel tank through it when low the other day. (Prepares to cower behind chair from barrage sent by those that actually have an oil burner)

Sure someone else with knowledge will be along shortly. Howard
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Have RSW AllComms in Cheshire J17 M6 - happy to help.
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Thank you, Smutt. No one else had any different ideas.... however ( and I am sorry for the VERY late reply but... ) within a couple of days the juddering/hunting had ceased! Happy Days.... in fact it has driven like a beaut , until a week ago when , after the fuel had gone to just below 1/4 tank, it started all again .
In fact it is vibrating throughout the car now if standing at a junction etc and it is most tummy-troubling as it vibrates.
I have booked into have a full service on Wednesday and see if a new air and fuel filter will sort it... I have fingers crossed.
 'Knowledge Is Power'

having this problem with a 1/4 tank of fuel is an indication of one of the fuel pumps being faulty..[i think] ... - .- -.




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I tend to agree with Stan, keep the tank above 1/3 and it should be fine  MY 2010 5.0 SC Galway green and sand interior!!
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Possibly drawn dirt from the tank and now the fuel filter is now choked, worth changing before the pump as it's the least expensive option

How many miles has it done? Only if your around the 100K mark it could be the injectors , which is not uncommon with a TD6 . Do the filter and if it's still there then I'd look at the injectors, if it does it all the time regardless of how much fuel is in your tank. Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Talk to these people, they are up your way, they sorted my injectors and rebuilt the nackered ones for a lot less that you can buy them online, and they'll do diagnostics on the engine if you don't want to get your hands dirty

http://www.fastlinegroup.co.uk/ Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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This was my fun and games earlier in the year http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic33098.html Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
Inventor of the 'Guide-o-Matic automatic wheel alignment tool'
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Thank you for all that. I will see what its like after the service and then take your advice etc.
It just puzzled me that for the past 3 weeks she has 'floated' along the road.... a dream drive. And then suddenly it's back !

Cheers 'Knowledge Is Power'

Now that I'm in the know after the catastrophic failure of my injectors, I think that I can honestly say that it was playing up for months, but as it was in the background, and intermittent, I just put it down to being a ffrr and possibly a bit of water in the fuel.

Now that it's all sorted, I can really feel the difference, the engine is way smoother at lower revs and it starts really easily when it's hot. Which progressively got worse, rather than instantly, so I didn't really notice until it was too late

All diesel injectors need to be cleaned at some stage in their life, if your car is slightly playing up and it's got more than 80K on the clock, I would suggest that the injectors are the most likely cause. As mine had just gone over the 115K mark, it was overdue for injector failure. As the car had done 95K when I got it and the gearbox failed within 7k , I didn't notice the injectors having the odd splutter every now and then, I suppose that they were trying to get my attention with a discrete cough every now and then. Only I didn't know any better, so in the end they just said sod it and stopped working

I do remember an occasion last year when it all went Pete Tong having sat in traffic for miles on the M1 ( unheard of ) and then feeling the joy of being released for the last few miles, I might have momentarily exceeded the speed limit, but I'm sure that I was doing 70 +/- 15 , and then got in a que on the slip road. The engine started to shudder a bit under gentle throttle, so I thought that I was having a bad fuel moment and duly booted it at the first bit of open road, by the time I got home it had cleared it's self. Now I'm thinking that it may well have been the start of things to come, which took about 8 months and 15k to reach, and cost me shed loads in lost work  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Hi everybody !
I had the car serviced yesterday, new oil and fuel filter etc.
The mechanic spoke afterwards and he told me ( without prompting by me ) that I had an injection misfire which gets worse as the engine gets hotter. He said '' its not bad enough to see which injector it is yet in which cylinder '' , well, I think that is the gist of it, anyway.
He said injectors are £168+VAT each, plus labour.
He then said that I could try some 'injector flush' juice (STP brand ) and see if that cures the problem..... £5.99 a pop !
I soon had the juice in my tank.....!! Time will now tell....
What do the Gurus on here think..?
Cheers. 'Knowledge Is Power'

If it were mine, i would have the 6 injectors out and into a Bosch specialist for checking/cleaning etc... If no fault is found? At least you will have clean injectors/better fuel economy & piece of mind...

I would then look at the injection loom as they can beak down on the TD6... Remember the episode of Wheeler Dealers?

Talk to Fastline they quoted me £65 per hour, and were confident that they could find the fault in an hour, plus they are a Bosch agent and they will rebuild for £135 + vat and give a full Bosch warranty They will clean and test for £17.50 per injector and wave this fee if it's rebuilt, can't say fairer than that

Question is are you going to remove the injectors, or are you going to get them removed? If it's the latter then I'd just take it straight to them, cos they is a lot cheaper per hour than a stealer  Yesterday I couldn't spell Engineer... Today I are one!
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Former long term L322 owner, Up/Down graded to a Classic Tractor!

You can read the values for the fuelling of the cylinders using the IID Diagnostics tool. I've had a similar problem, re: link below

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic31618.html

May be worth a look.

P.S. I've not had a chance or time yet to check the injectors or loom, but will hopefully get round to it when the service is due.