We went into John Lewis in Birmingham yesterday. I saw an OLED curved 55" 4K TV on offer. It was a great looking TV and a fantastic picture. Turns out it was a customer return and the RRP was £2500. It had reduced to £2100. A quick Google search showed that this TV was now £1999 everywhere else so I mentioned this to the staff. The manager came out and said he could do the TV for £1599. He said it would still have a five year warranty and a 28 day returns policy if we didn't like it.

I reserved the TV but then when I went to Selfridge's in Birmingham. they were doing the same TV for £2000 but they were throwing in a free curved LG soundbar worth £500. Hypothetically, if I sell the soundbar for £400, this makes a brand-new TV £1600- the same price as the customer return item. I don't need the soundbar as I have Sonos and Bose connected at present, so I would look to sell it. however I suspect knowing my luck I wouldn't be able to sell it on as it is curved to match the TV and I don't know how many people there are out there who would want one of these.

At the moment I haven't picked up the TV. In the back of my mind two things: it's a customer return although it is As new (customer had it a week). Secondly I think that the price of these TVs will drop again in the summer or later on in the year as does most to technology items. I'm tempted to hang on.

Alternatively I could go for the non-OLED 4K version which is £500. To be honest, the 4K is a bit of an extravagance as I have a GoPro Hero 4 Black which is 4K. That is not the sole reason for buying the TV as we need a new one and I do like the look and picture quality of the OLED. It's like 5mm thick.

Look on eBay - even then you won't know what the sound bars really go for, but may give you an idea.

i sent 5 sets back to JL with various problems...i have now ended up with a samsung 55ju6800 which is the best out of the lot and is suffice for my needs....

i would never buy a return because as said i've returned 5, so the chances are someone might buy my reject... ... - .- -.




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I would just get the new one.

In terms of 4K there still isn't much out there, the 4k streams on amazon etc are ok but not really much better than a Blue ray Disc, there is ultra HD bD coming soon but it won't be mainstream for a while. Look at BD it still really hasn't caught on, most folks are still on DVD.

I hear what you are saying about the 4K from the Hero Black, the pictures are great, but it completely sucks the battery life. I have a silver and the pics on 1080p are not at all bad on my samsungs.

I looked at the LG OLED tvs in Costco when I bought mine, and thought the curved screen was a bit of a gimmick, and plumped for the non OLED samsung. Which has been OK however it suffers from issues with light bleed at the edges, and has already had one new panel. My second much cheaper set was much better in terms of light consistency but has less features. The OLED screens were a bit to shiny for my liking and i thought they might suffer from reflection issues. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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re 4k, most 4k sets upgrade the source feed to near 4k resolution, some do it better than others so you get a slightly better pic than HD.... ... - .- -.




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I really need to spend some money - I'm still making do with 720P Pioneer Plasmas

And where does it stop , 6 months down the line there will be a 5k TV then a 6k ... A picture is a picture .. I just bought 3 x 49" Led Tv's for 3 rooms to watch .. Coz SWMBO'd said the 50" LCD TV's where old hat 😡😡🙀🙀 its just all s.hit.e thats on Sky anyhow ..

Alistair, I too am still rocking a 42" pioneer, mines quite a few years old too, have you seen how much they still go for on eBay ?they were the best screens on the market!

I'm actually still happy with them - I have 3 x 50's and a 42 - along with a waterproof one in the bathroom, I spent over £15k on them in one go

2 of them are set into the wall - or rather the wall was built around them - so need to either replace with something the same size or go a decent bit bigger to hide the hole.

I'll take Micks advice and wait for 6k

its easy to forget the 4k displays you see showing in JL etc are all filmed in 4k thats why they look so good.

our 11 year old panasonic viera 42 inch is as good today as it was new although looks a bit small now we have moved house. personally i think spend what your happy spending and enjoy cuz whatever you buy - in 12 months time it will either be a lot cheaper or obsolete.

if you wait for the next big thing to arrive you will never do anything. non 4k will still be relevant and sufficient in 5 years time!

i've long since grown past trying to keep up with tech. i still use a ipad 1 not because im tight or cant afford upgrades but because its like chasing the end of rainbow!!!! 405 AB exec seats Baltic and Cirrus
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couldn't agree with you more if only my other half wasn't so " get new stuff " pish

Also not much 4K programs about or companies transmitting at mo.

Netflix has some and Sky are a few months away. Range Rover quotes.....

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Alistair wrote:

I'm actually still happy with them - I have 3 x 50's and a 42 - along with a waterproof one in the bathroom, I spent over £15k on them in one go

2 of them are set into the wall - or rather the wall was built around them - so need to either replace with something the same size or go a decent bit bigger to hide the hole.

I'll take Micks advice and wait for 6k

As I hardly ever go into shops these days, I'm always drawn to th TV department in typical department stores, and often talk to the guys in that department. I've always been a 'big TV fan, and am waiting for our 2007 Samsung plasma to blow up, to give the green light. I've seen some fads pass me by, like 3D and 1st gen LED and 100hz type boasts, but wanting to go up to 65 inch on our upgrade, I'm often told that these curved tv's are the best experience. I can't agree, I think it's an 'emporers new clothes' trick. Ours will be on a flat wall, we both sit around 30 degrees off the perpendicular, so we won't get the 'wraparound' experience, and, just like all fads, they come and go. And the classic style is always right. Just like a white bathroom suite, round dinner plates, plain carpets, fm radios, and analogue watches. The curved screen to me will be pointed at in 5 years time, as a gimmick. Maybe by then, they will curve the OTHER WAY, so nobody misses anything, whilst drawing the curtains!
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I've seen plenty of huge tv's for little money on eBay, however, being auctions, (not buy it now) you have absolutely no return facility. Even on the same day! Unlike a department store. (Assuming new in box)...... a graded tv you speak of above, has to be bartered on a special deal, as delivery is very difficult if without box, these items are so flimsy, almost like a sheet of picture frame glass, of huge dimension.
Down the line, your product registration, and guarantee, has to be perfect, as you will be dealing with people looking to cover themselves against total loss.

But I have to ask myself over and over, can I really see the difference after 1/2 hour of watching the news!
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An interesting point regards sky, I think another thread is needed...