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Lk118



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver
(2002) Sat nav issues

Hi, I appreciate this has probably been done to death but my radio/cd/sat nav aren't working. It was like this when I bought the vehicle and in my infinite wisdom believed I would be able to fix it...

This is the situation at the moment;

* Orange light next to the On/Off button and a flashing red light in the top right hand corner. (What is that?)

* No audio and nothing on the screen however the backlight is working.

* Eject works for the cassette.

* CD Changer ejects and sounds like it's sorting through the CD's.

* No noise whatsoever coming from the speakers.

* GPS Navigation System box in the N/S Rear panel doesn't have power to it.

* On top of the GPS Navigation System box there is a electrical connection with nothing going into it...

Any help would be gratefully appreciated before I have to get an auto-electrician onto it Sad

Cheers guys!

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The flashing red light indicates your car phone isn't connecting to a phone network. I had the same until I plugged a full size SIM card into the slot under the handset. It needs to be a SIM from a GSM / 2G network. I did that last week, I bought a cheap SIM and a low cost 365-day recharge.

Now I have working phone (until the end of the year when the 2G network gets turned down). I bought the car in December and, up until then, I'd put a small black dot of electrical tape over the light.

Re sound system, I am absolutely a novice with the L322, but I wonder if the lack of power to the GPS system in the rear could be the cause? I ask because yesterday I had a weird situation where when the GPS gave audio instructions, it muted the sound system, both on CD and radio. The only way I could get the sound back was to turn the system off then back on. The next time I got instructions, the sound shut down.

On the way home, I didn't need GPS guidance and the sound system didn't have a problem. I'll be doing more testing today. In my case it might have been voltage related as the car hadn't been used for a while. Ron B. VK2OTC
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Lk118



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

Thanks mate, I'm going to check all the connections in the rear N/S panel and give them all a clean, hopefully that will mean the box in the back gets power.

I've attached a pic mate, if you can make it out it's on top of the GPS Navi box and that's the connection that doesn't have anything going into it?

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That is the antenna for a bluetooth module. If you have a bluetooth module fitted it should be in the LHR cubby at the front on the left as you look at it, below and to the left of the Sat Nav. .
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Lk118



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Thanks, was hoping that was the problem with no power to the GPS Navi box, I'm assuming it isn't! 99% of the system seems to be working, there is power to the head unit, just seems as though there will be one thing needs sorting for it all to work. I can dream anyway...

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You could try a battery disconnect, look in the WIKI, Link top right under fullfatrr.com for the correct procedure.....

If not it's an expensive thing to fix, each individual item is hundreds of pounds and they are known for going wrong!!!

If it's not an easy fix, consider the Android head unit http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic29219.html (but then I would say that....)

Good luck Thumbs Up Pete
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Joe90 wrote:
That is the antenna for a bluetooth module. If you have a bluetooth module fitted it should be in the LHR cubby at the front on the left as you look at it, below and to the left of the Sat Nav.


Will a 2002 have BT? My 2003 has that connector and a cable attached but no BT as far as I'm aware. Happy to be wrong about that, though!

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On mine the cable disappears in the LHR corner. I can't see to where it goes.

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 Ron B. VK2OTC
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Lk118



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Interesting, mate. In that case I'll have a look see if any of the wires are at a loose end! Don't think they are though! I wouldn't have thought the system would have bluetooth! Fingers crossed!

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Lk118



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So I found the pink/purple connector that goes on top of the GPS Navi box, for one second a red power light appeared on the Navi box, can't get it to come back on now, though... Seems like it's so close to working but just that final hurdle. Got a quote for £56ph + VAT for an auto electrician to look at it...

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Lk118



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United Kingdom 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver

So I found the pink/purple connector that goes on top of the GPS Navi box, for one second a red power light appeared on the Navi box, can't get it to come back on now, though... Seems like it's so close to working but just that final hurdle. Got a quote for £56ph + VAT for an auto electrician to look at it...

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I'm fairly sure that no power to the GPS drive is the problem as this drives whats on the screen especially as your orange radio light is on. The disc and firmware in the drive contain the menu and screen flash so thats why you can't see anything or control the audio. The backlight on the heading confirms thats all ok, so it must be down to the drive / drive connections.

The power connections for the drive are at the back of it and can be a bit tight (at least mine are but I have the rear seat tv system and dvd drive in there as well) does have two blue plastic connectors at the back of the drive which are the slide up and over connections - if they aren't latched properly that will cause you have to power problems to it. Not convinced the pink connection on top of the drive is anything to do with the satnav - my 2004 doesn't have that as it doesn't have the phone system. The GPS drive should work even if the phone system doesn't - it will just grey Telephone out on the menu if its not working. I would bet the problem is the power connections at the back of the GPS drive unit. Current Fleet:-
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The power supply is common to all the parts of the system, it's a red/green pretty thick wire, if the light on the head unit is on then chances are it's not the fuse but it could be the wiring, check you have 12volts to the red/green wire at the Nav DVD, if there is then the chances are it's faulty inside... Get the earth from the brown wire in the same plug, that way you check the power and the earth, if you get 12volts both wires are ok, if no volts try an earth from the car body via one of the earthing posts (bolt on the metal of the car with lots of brown wires going to it) if you have volts then the earth wire is damaged... Nothing at all try fuse 49 30amp..

Very little an electrician will be able to do apart from check if 12volts and an earth are getting to all the parts of the system, and no wires are broken, you can do that yourself with a cheap meter from Halfords etc...

The nav DVD units are well known for failing so if it has 12volts to it and an earth then the chances are it's broken, probably cheaper to get one off eBay than get yours repaired...





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I would be inclined to undo the 3 plugs on the top of the DSP unit and connection plug on the satnav unit and check for corrosion of the pins and sockets.
If all ok I would then delve into the bottom of the compartment and look for blue and white plugs around the area of the tv module that are not connected to anything, they should be.

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Lk118



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Wow! Ha thanks!

This might be really noddy and sound stupid but there's no dics in the GPS Navi box in the back. Does all the system require the disc to operate, IE; radio, cd player, head unit etc...

I've got a constant red light on the GPS box now but still nothing on the screen and no audio, doesn't sound like anything is trying to make a noise IE; radio, CD

Cheers guys! Much appreciated!

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What did you do to get the red light on the satnav unit/
Is the tv module fitted in your car? It's the silver box with the blue and white plugs on the top.

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